Mrs. Bledsoe.

Yes; all the buttons torn off.

Mr. Ball.

What did he have on underneath that?

Mrs. Bledsoe.

I don't know.

Mr. Ball.

Do you know the color of any undershirt he had on?

Mrs. Bledsoe.

No.

Mr. Ball.

Notice the color of his pants?

Mrs. Bledsoe.

Yes, they were gray, and they were all ragged in here [indicating].

Mr. Ball.

. Around where?

Mrs. Bledsoe.

At the seam.

Mr. Ball.

At the waist?

Mrs. Bledsoe.

At the waist, uh-huh.

Mr. Ball.

Was the shirt tucked beneath the belt in his pants, or outside the belt?

Mrs. Bledsoe.

No; he had it in.

Mr. Ball.

Had it tucked in?

Mrs. Bledsoe.

No: it was tucked in.

Mr. Ball.

So, that the belt of the pants was outside the shirt?

Mrs. Bledsoe.

Yes; uh-huh.

Mr. Ball.

Now, you say the motorman said something?

Mrs. Bledsoe.

Motorman said. "Well, the President has been shot," and I say--so, and the woman over--we all got to talking about four of us sitting around talking, and Oswald was sitting back there, and one of them said, "Hope they don't shoot us," and I said, "I don't believe that--it is--I don't believe it. Somebody just said that.
And it was too crowded, you see, and Oswald had got off.

Mr. Ball.

How far had he been on the bus before he got off? Until the time

he got on until the time he got off?

Mrs. Bledsoe.

About three or four blocks.

Mr. Ball.

Did he say anything to the motorman when he got off?

Mrs. Bledsoe.

They say he did, but I don't remember him saying anything.

Mr. Ball.

Did you ever see the motorman give him a transfer?

Mrs. Bledsoe.

No; I didn't pay any attention but I believe he did.

Mr. Ball.

Well, what do you mean he---you believe he did? Did you remember seeing him get on or are you telling me something you read in the newspapers?

Mrs. Bledsoe.

No; I don't remember. I don't remember.

Mr. Ball.

Did you pay any attention at that time as to whether he did, or did not get a transfer?

Mrs. Bledsoe.

I didn't pay any attention to him.

Mr. Ball.

Well, did you look at him as he got off the bus?

Mrs. Bledsoe.

No; I sure didn't. I didn't want to know him.

Mr. Ball.

Well, you think you got enough of a glimpse of him to be able to recognize him?

Mrs. Bledsoe.

Oh, yes.

Mr. Ball.

You think you might be mistaken?

Mrs. Bledsoe.

Oh, no.

Mr. Ball.

You didn't look very carefully, did you?

Mrs. BLEDSOE. No; I just glanced at him, and then looked the other way and I hoped he didn't see me.

Mr. Ball.

Now, are there two exits from the bus?

Mrs. Bledsoe.

Uh-huh.

Mr. Ball.

The middle of the bus, and front of the bus?

Mrs. Bledsoe.

Uh-huh.

Mr. Ball.

Which exit did he leave?

Mrs. Bledsoe.

Front.

Mr. Ball.

By the motorman?

Mrs. Bledsoe.

Uh-huh, by the motorman.

Mr. Ball.

Did anybody else get off at that time when he got off?

Mrs. Bledsoe.

No, not then, but there was a lady sitting right across, she wanted to go to the train station.

Mr. Ball.

To the what station?