Mr. Ball.

by that"; he just shook his head and I just stood there and shook my head. I didn't want to .think what was happening, you know, but I wanted to find out so I went down to where the grassy slope is, you know, and I was trying to gather pieces of conversation of the people that had been close by there and somebody said "Well, the President has been shot and I think they shot somebody else", something like that.

Mr. Ball.

Did you see Mr. Truly go into the building?

Mr. Molina.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

Where were you when you saw him go into the building?

Mr. Molina.

I was right in the entrance.

Mr. Ball.

Did you see a police officer with him?

Mr. Molina.

I didn't see a police officer. I don't recall seeing a police officer but I did see him go inside.
Mr. BALL. Did you see a white-helmeted police officer any time there in the entrance?
Mr. MOLINA. Well, of course, there might have been one after they secured the building, you know.
Mr. BALL. No, I mean when Truly went in; did you see Truly actually go into the building?

Mr. Molina.

I saw him go in.

Mr. Ball.

Where were you standing?

Mr. Molina.

Right at the front door; right at the front door.

Mr. Ball.

Outside the front door?

Mr. MOLINA. Yes, outside the front door I was standing; the door was right behind me.

Mr. Ball.

Were you standing on the steps?

Mr. Molina.

Yes, on the uppermost step.

Mr. Ball.

You actually saw Truly go

Mr. Molina.

Yeah.

Mr. Ball.

You were still standing there?

Mr. Molina.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

How long was it after you heard the shots?

Mr. Molina.

Oh, I would venture to say maybe 20 or 30 seconds afterwards.

Mr. Ball.

Had somebody come up and said the President was shot before

you saw Truly go in?

Mr. Molina.

No.

Mr. Ball.

Do you know a girl named Gloria Calvary?

Mr. Molina.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

Did Gloria come up?
Ms.. MOLINA. Yes, she came. I was in the lobby standing there and she came in with this other girl.

Mr. Ball.

What did she say?

Mr. MOLINA. She said "Oh, my God, Joe, he's been shot." They were both horrified. I said "Are you sure he was shot?" She said "Oh, Joe ,I'm sure. I saw his hair fly up and I'm sure he was shot" something to that extent.

Mr. Ball.

You left the building that day about what time and went home?

Mr. Molina.

Oh, it must have been around, I would say, I would say it was about 2, maybe a little before that, I don't know.

Mr. Ball.

Had you ever seen Lee Oswald?

Mr. Molina.

I had seen him in the building, yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Did you ever speak to him?

Mr. Molina.

No; I never spoke to him.

Mr. Ball.

Did you see him at all on November 22d

Mr. Molina.

I never did see him.

Mr. Ball.

Did you see any strangers in the building on that day November 22d?

Mr. Molina.

No; like I stated before, I came in at--to work at 7 in the morning because I had a key and I was on the second floor all the time, never did leave except maybe to go to the restroom, something like that. Then I ate my lunch, took my lunch and ate it and went downstairs about 12:15.
Mr. BALL. Okay, thanks very much, Mr. Molina. This will be written up for your signature if you wish; you can come in and sign it or you can waive