Mr. Arce.
Well, he said he had kidney trouble, could I direct him to the men's room and I said I would and I helped him up the steps and walked him into the restroom and I opened the door for him and that's when I went inside to eat my lunch and then I seen him walk out.
Mr. Ball.
Did you see him talk to anyone in there?
Mr. Arce.
No; he went straight out.
Mr. Ball.
Was he in a car?
Mr. Arce.
Yeah, after I went outside I seen him driving out in a black car.
Mr. Ball.
He drove away?
Mr. Arce.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball.
Did you ever see him again?
Mr. Arce.
No, never seen him again.
Mr. Ball.
Just 1 minute, I want to show you a picture. I show you Commission Exhibit No. 369. I show you this picture. See this man in this picture?
Mr. Arce.
Yeah.
Mr. Ball.
Recognize him?
Mr. Arce.
Yes, that's Billy Lovelady.
Mr. Ball.
Just to identify it clearly, the man on the steps---well, you see the man on the steps, do you not?
Mr. Arce.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball.
He is a white man, isn't he?
Mr. Arce.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball.
And you see his picture just above the picture of two colored people, is that correct; would you describe it like that?
Mr. Arce.
Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. I am not going to mark this purposely because other witnesses have to see it.
Mr. Arce.
Yes.
Mr. Ball.
Did you say that is Billy Lovelady?
Mr. Arce.
Yes, that is Billy Lovelady.
Mr. Ball.
Now, there is only one face that is clearly shown within the entrance-way of the Texas School Book Depository Building, isn't there?
Mr. Arce.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball.
And only one face of a person who is standing on the steps of the Depository Building entrance?
Mr. Arce.
Yeah.
Mr. Ball.
And that one man you see there---
Mr. Arce.
Yes, that's Billy Lovelady.
Mr. Ball.
When you came to work that morning, Danny---
Mr. Arce.
Yeah.
Mr. Ball.
Was Oswald there at the time?
Mr. ARCE. I believe I seen him once that morning on the first floor, some place around there. I'm not too sure.
Mr. Ball.
But did you see him go into the building?
Mr. Arce.
No, sir; I didn't.
Mr. BALL. Did you ever see him have in his possession any paper bag or sack that day?
Mr. Arce.
No, sir; I didn't see him.
Mr. Ball.
This will be written up and you will have an opportunity to read it and sign it if you wish or you can waive signature. Which do you wish? If you waive signature, you don't have to come back. Which do you prefer? Do either one.
Mr. Arce.
I don't understand too well.
Mr. BALL. She writes this up. Then if you wish, you can come in, read it over and, if there are any changes to be made, you make them and you swear to it before this young lady, who is a notary public, or you can waive signature and we will send it on to the Commission.
Mr. Arce.
I guess you all could send it on to the Commission.
Mr. Ball.
And you waive signature?
Mr. Arce.
Yes.
Mr. BALL. Thanks very much for coming in.
Joe R. Molina
