Mr. Arce.

That's the one behind it; directly behind the Texas School Book Depository at Elm and Houston.

Mr. Ball.

You worked there most of the time as an order filler?

Mr. Arce.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Did you ever work over at the building at 411 Elm?

Mr. ARCE. Yes, sir; they were short of help up there and they sent me and the other bey down there.

Mr. Ball.

Who is the other boy?

Mr. Arce.

Bonnie Ray Williams.

Mr. Ball.

They sent you out to do what?

Mr. Arce.

Help lay out a floor on the sixth floor.

Mr. Ball.

What date did they send you down there?

Mr. Arce.

Sir, I don't remember.

Mr. Ball.

October?

Mr. ARCE. I know I had been there about 4 weeks when all that happened; I believe 4 or 5 weeks. I am not too sure about that.

Mr. Ball.

You mean 4 or 5 weeks before November 22, 1963?

Mr. Arce.

Yeah.

Mr. Ball.

Were you laying floor at that time?

Mr. ARCE. Yes, sir; we laid floor on the fifth and then we were on the sixth when this happened.

Mr. Ball.

Did you ever meet a fellow named Lee Oswald?

Mr. Arce.

Yeah, he worked with us and he didn't associate with us too much. He was kind of quiet. He didn't like to talk too much to us or anything.

Mr. Ball.

You say he worked with you; did he work laying floors?

Mr. Arce.

No, he was an order filler; he just worked the same place.

Mr. Ball.

Did you ever see him on the sixth floor?

Mr. Arce.

Yeah, quite a few times.

Mr. Ball.

. Ever see him on the first floor?

Mr. Arce.

. Uh-huh.

Mr. Ball.

Did you ever eat lunch with him?

Mr. ARCE. We all eat lunch together in this little domino room. We play dominoes and eat our lunch. He might walk in and lay around with us and he would walk out. He didn't stay in there too long. I guess he didn't like crowds.

Mr. Ball.

On the 22d of November, what time did you go to work?

Mr. Arce.

We start at eight but I believe I was a little late.

Mr. Ball.

You went to work on what floor?

Mr. Arce.

Sixth

Mr. Ball.

Did you work there all morning?

Mr. Arce.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

What time did you get off work?

Mr. Arce.

That day?

Mr. Ball.

At noon for your lunch hour or your lunch period?

Mr. Arce.

What time we left down for lunch?

Mr. Ball.

Yes.
Mr. ARCE. We usually leave down about 5 to 12, something around there.
Mr. BALL. How did you go down stairs?

Mr. Arce.

By the elevator.

Mr. Ball.

Did you have sort of a race that day, do you remember?

Mr. Arce.

Yeah.

Mr. Ball.

Tell me about it.

Mr. Arce.

Well, me and Bonnie Ray and, I am not too sure, I believe it was Billy Lovelady, were on the same elevator, and Charles Givens and the other guys were on the other one and we were racing down.

Mr. Ball.

Which elevator were you on?

Mr. Arce.

We have two of them that go up, the same deal and I was on the one facing east. There's an east and a west elevator and I was in the one facing east.

Mr. Ball.

Did you see Lee Oswald or hear him speak on the way down?

Mr. ARCE. Yeah, he was up there and I believe someone asked if he wanted to go down.
Mr. BALL. He was there---on what floor?