Mr. Givens.

Well, we were, oh, I would say about 20 feet out from the wall, we had laid.

Mr. Belin.

Did anyone else ever comment to you as having seen Oswald on the sixth floor that morning?

Mr. Givens.

No, sir.
Mr. BELIN. All right. Now, is there anything else you can think of that happened that morning up to the time you heard the shot?
Mr. GIVENS. No, sir. Everything was all right until that.

Mr. Belin.

How many shots did you hear?

Mr. Givens.

Three.

Mr. Belin.

What did you do when you heard them?

Mr. GIVENS. Well, we broke and ran down that way, and by the time we got to the corner down there of Houston and Elm, everybody was running, going toward the underpass over there by the railroad tracks. And we asked--I asked someone some white fellow there, 'What happened ?" And he said, "Somebody shot the President." Like that. So I stood there for a while, and I went over to try to get to the building after they found out the shots came from there, and when I went over to try to get back in the officer at the door wouldn't let me in.

Mr. Belin.

Did you tell him you worked there?

Mr. Givens.

Yes; but he still wouldn't let me in. He told me he wouldn't let no one in.

Mr. Belin.

This was the front of Elm Street?

Mr. Givens.

Yes. So I goes back over to the parking lot and I wait until I seen Junior.

Mr. Belin.

Is that Jarman?

Mr. GIVENS. Yes. They were on their way home, and they told me that they let them all go home for the evening, and I said, "I'd better go back and get my hat and coat."
So I started over there to pick up my hat and coat, and Officer Dawson saw me and he called me and asked me was my name Charles Givens, and I said," yes."
And he said, "We want you to go downtown and make a statement."
And he puts me in the car and takes me down to the city hall and I made a statement to Will Fritz down there.
Mr. BELIN. Did you ever see Lee Oswald at any time after the time you saw him carrying the clipboard on the sixth floor?

Mr. Givens.

No, sir. The next time I saw him was on television.

Mr. Belin.

Is there anything else you can think of, whether I have asked it or not, that in any way is relevant to the assassination?

Mr. GIVENS. No, sir.

Mr. Belin.

Anything else you can think of about Lee Oswald, whether I have it or not, that might in any way be helpful?

Mr. Givens.

No, sir. Other than he is just a peculiar fellow. He is just a loner. Don't have much to say to anybody. Stayed by himself most of the time. Mr. BELIN. Did you ever notice any one person there he was more friendly with than the other?

Mr. Givens.

Well, this boy he rode with.

Mr. Belin.

Frazier?

Mr. Givens.

Yes, sir. Every once in a while I would see him talking to him. Bonnie Ray told me---I never saw him, but Bonnie Ray told me he talked to he and Danny sometimes.

Mr. Belin.

Anyone else?

Mr. GIVENS. Not that I know of; no, sir.

Mr. Belin.

Anything else you can think of?

Mr. Givens.

No, sir; that is about it.
Mr. BELIN. Well, Mr. Givens, we surely appreciate your cooperation in coming down here.
Now you and I didn't talk about this at all until we started taking this deposition, did we?
Mr. GIVENS. No, sir.