Mr. BELIN. Do you remember any conversation you ever had with him? What you said and what he said?
Mr. Givens.
Well, he was a fellow that kept pretty much to himself. He never had too much to say.
Mr. Belin.
Did he ever say anything to you, what a nice day, or about his family, or baseball, or anything?
Mr. Givens.
No, sir.
Mr. Belin.
Ever talk to you about any politics?
Mr. Givens.
No, sir.
Mr. BELIN. When you talked to him about correcting an order, what did you say and what did he say?
Mr. Givens.
Well, I just tell him he had the wrong book.
Mr. Belin.
What would he say?
Mr. Givens.
He said, "Okay," and got the record.
Mr. Belin.
What did you call him, Lee or Oswald?
Mr. Givens.
Called him Lee.
Mr. Belin.
What did he call you?
Mr. Givens.
Well, he never called me anything. I never heard him call me anything.
Mr.. BELIN. Did he make mistakes often?
Mr. Givens.
Well, not too often.
Mr. BELIN. When you got to work on the morning of November 22, did you see him at all there or not?
Mr. Givens.
22d? That was on Friday, wasn't it?
Mr. Belin.
Friday; that is the day the President came by.
Mr. Givens.
Yes, I saw him that day.
Mr. Belin.
Where did you see him first?
Mr. Givens.
Well, I first saw him on the first floor.
Mr. Belin.
About what time was that?
Mr. Givens.
Well, about 8:30.
Mr. Belin.
Now, let me ask you this. You got to work at a quarter to 8?
Mr. Givens.
Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. What did you do between a quarter of 8 and 8:30? Where were
Mr. Givens.
Well, I went upstairs. We went to work at 8 o'clock.
Mr. Belin.
Did you see him come into the domino room at all?
Mr. Givens.
Not that morning, no, sir; I didn't.
Mr. BELIN. When did you leave the domino room to go up to the sixth floor?
Mr. Givens.
8 o'clock.
Mr. Belin.
. At 8 o'clock?
Mr. Givens.
Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. So you don't feel he came in the domino room before 8 o'clock?
Mr. Givens.
No, sir; not that morning he didn't.
Mr. Belin.
How did you get up to the sixth floor?
Mr. Givens.
On the elevator.
Mr. Belin.
The east or the west one? The west one is the one that would be nearest the railroad tracks, and the east one would be nearer the Houston Street.
Mr. GIVENS. We went up on the east one.
Mr. BELIN. Any particular reason why you took the east one rather than the west one?
Mr. GIVENS. Well, I don't know whether you call it a particular reason, but on the west, you have double gates on that.
Mr. BELIN. Was the west elevator on the first floor when you took the east elevator up?
Mr. Givens.
It was that morning, yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. It was that morning around 8 o'clock?
Mr. Givens.
Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. Now, where did you see him at 8:30 o'clock first?
Mr. Givens.
I came back down to use the rest room.
Mr. Belin.
Where was he?
Mr. GIVENS. He was over there in the bin filling orders.
