Mr. Kaiser.

This FBI was standing there with me--he was standing there then and I told him I had a clipboard laying up there with the orders.

Mr. Ball.

Do you think it would have been around December 2?

Mr. Kaiser.

I couldn't tell you, sir.

Mr. Ball.

It was within a week after you went back to work, was it?

Mr. Kaiser.

To my best knowledge yes, sir---somewhere in there.

Mr. Ball.

How did you happen to find the clipboard?

Mr. KAISER. I was over there looking for the Catholic edition--teacher's edition.

Mr. Ball.

Where did you see the clipboard?
Mr. KAISER. It was Just laying there in the plain open--and just the plain open boxes-you see, we've got a pretty good space back there and I just noticed it laying over there.

Mr. Ball.

Laying. on the floor?

Mr. Kaiser.

Yes, it was laying on the floor.

Mr. Ball.

It was on the floor?

Mr. Kaiser.

It was on the floor.

Mr. Ball.

How close was it to the wall?

Mr. KAISER. It was about---oh--I would say, just guessing, about 5 or 6 inches, something like that.

Mr. Ball.

From the wall and on the floor?

Mr. Kaiser.

Laying on the floor.

Mr. Ball.

And were there any boxes between the wall and the clipboard?

Mr. Kaiser.

No, not between the wall and the clipboard--there wasn't.

Mr. Ball.

Were there boxes between the stairway and the clipboard?

Mr. KAISER. No, you see, here's---let me see just a second---here's the stairs right here, and we went down this way and here's the stairs this way going up and here's the and it was laying fight in here by the cards--there are about four or five cards, I guess, running in front of it--just laying between the part you go down and the part you go up.

Mr. Ball.

You mean laying between the stairway up and the stairway down?

Mr. Kaiser.

Yes, right there in the corner.

Mr. Ball.

Did you examine that clipboard?

Mr. Kaiser.

I didn't .touch it.

Mr. Ball.

Did you later touch it?

Mr. Kaiser.

Yes, sir; they got me to look at it later on.

Mr. Ball.

Did you see it had some orders on it?

Mr. Kaiser.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

And were the orders dated?

Mr. Kaiser.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

What were they dated?

Mr. Kaiser.

I couldn't tell you, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Take a look at this statement which you gave to Mr. Pinkston that day and read it to yourself and see if it refreshes your memory in any way?

Mr. Kaiser.

(Read statement referred to.)

Mr. Ball.

Did you read that?

Mr. Kaiser.

Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Does that refresh your memory now as to the orders on the clip-board?
Mr. KAISER. I didn't know the date on the orders--I knew that there was some orders on there--I seen the orders on the clipboard.

Mr. Ball.

Did you examine them to determine the date on them ?

Mr. Kaiser.

Did I examine those orders? No, sir.

Mr. Ball.

You didn't examine the orders?

Mr. KAISER. No, sir; I just went down and got my boss and then they took it down.

Mr. Ball.

Did you make any notes of the orders?

Mr. Kaiser.

I didn't, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Of either the names on the orders or the date of the orders?

Mr. Kaiser.

No, sir; now, my boss may have.

Mr. Ball.

I think that's all. Did you fill the orders, then, yourself?

Mr. Kaiser.

No, sir; not them, I didn't.