Mr. LOVELADY. Well, I couldn't say because she came up to us and we was talking to her, wasn't looking that direction at that time, but when we came off the steps--see, that entrance, you have a blind side when you go down the steps.
Mr. BALL. Right after you talked to Gloria, did you leave the steps and go toward the tracks?
Mr. Lovelady.
Yes.
Mr. Ball.
Did you run or walk?
Mr. Lovelady.
Medium trotting or fast walk.
Mr. Ball.
A fast walk?
Mr. Lovelady.
Yes.
Mr. BALL. How did you happen to turn around and see Truly and the policeman go into the building?
Mr. Lovelady.
Somebody hollered and I looked.
Mr. Ball.
You turned around and looked?
Mr. Lovelady.
Yes.
Mr. Ball.
After you ran to the railroad tracks you came back and went in the back door of the building?
Mr. Lovelady.
Right.
Mr. BALL. Did you go in through the docks, the wide open door or did you go in the ordinary Small door?
Mr. LOVELADY. You know where we park our trucks--that door; we have a little door.
Mr. Ball.
That is where you went in, that little door?
Mr. Lovelady.
That's right.
Mr. Ball.
That would be the north end of the building?
Mr. Lovelady.
That would be the west end, wouldn't it?
Mr. Ball.
Is it the one right off Houston Street?
Mr. Lovelady.
No; you are thinking about another dock.
Mr. Ball.
I am?
Mr. Lovelady.
Yes; we have two.
Mr. BALL. Do you have a dock on the west side and one on the north side of the building?
Mr. LOVELADY. East, and well, it would be east and west but you enter it from the south side.
Mr. Ball.
Now, the south side---
Mr. Lovelady.
Elm Street is that little dead-end street.
Mr. Ball.
That's south.
Mr. LOVELADY. I drive my truck here (indicating) but we came in from this direction; that would have to be west.
Mr. Ball.
. YOU came into the building from the west side?
Mr. Lovelady.
Right.
Mr. Ball.
Where did you go into the building?
Mr. Lovelady.
Through that, those raised-up doors.
Mr. Ball.
Through the raised-up doors?
Mr. Lovelady.
Through that double door that we in the morning when we get there we raised. There's a fire door and they have two wooden doors between it.
Mr. Ball.
You came in through the first floor?
Mr. Lovelady.
Right.
Mr. Ball.
Who did you see in the first floor?
Mr. Lovelady.
I saw a girl but I wouldn't swear to it it's Vickie.
Mr. Ball.
Who is Vickie?
Mr. Lovelady.
The girl that works for Scott, Foresman.
Mr. Ball.
What is her full name?
Mr. Lovelady.
I wouldn't know.
Mr. Ball.
Vickie Adams?
Mr. Lovelady.
I believe so.
Mr. Ball.
Would you say it was Vickie you saw?
Mr. Lovelady.
I couldn't swear.
Mr. Ball.
Where was the girl?
Mr. Lovelady.
I don't remember what place she was but I remember seeing