Mr. LOVELADY. I Was working on the sixth floor putting--we was putting down that flooring.
Mr. Ball.
Who were you working with?
Mr. LOVELADY. Well, there was Bonnie Ray Williams and Danny Arce and Slim, Charles Givens; we call him Slim, and let me see, well Mr. Shelley would come up every once in while, check on us. He wasn't workin' with us but he would come up see how we gettin' along.
Mr. Ball.
That's Mr. Shelley?
Mr. Lovelady.
Mr. Bill Shelley.
Mr. Ball.
What is his position with Texas School Book Depository?
Mr. Lovelady.
He would be under Mr. R. S. Truly.
Mr. Ball.
Is he a foreman?
Mr. Lovelady.
I guess you would call it that. He takes care of most things down there, paperwork and stuff like that.
Mr. Belin.
Did you know Lee Oswald?
Mr. Lovelady.
Well just to work with him.
Mr. Ball.
Did you ever talk to him?
Mr. LOVELADY. Well, I never did carry on any long conversations or anything like that, maybe, you know, "Hello," or I asked him a few times how his little baby was getting along; he told me it was doing fine.
Mr. Ball.
Where did Oswald work in the building?
Mr. Lovelady.
Well, he had access to all the building just like I do.
Mr. Ball.
All floors?
Mr. Lovelady.
All floors.
Mr. Ball.
Any floor?
Mr. Lovelady.
Any floor; I mean he didn't have no business in the office. I mean, or to if, say, like Mr. Truly would say "Okay, Lee, go up and give me a certain something from the office," he could go up there.
Mr. Ball.
Did he work on one floor more than any other?
Mr. Lovelady.
No; I wouldn't say because there's different publishers on each order and he has to go to different floors to get books.
Mr. Ball.
Did Oswald ever eat lunch with you?
Mr. LOVELADY. He ate two or three times in that little domino room, but not by himself, with the rest of the boys.
Mr. Belin.
Did you see him come to Work that morning?
Mr. Lovelady.
No, sir.
Mr. Ball.
Did you ever see him carry a sack or anything in his hand?
Mr. Lovelady.
No, sir; just lunch.
Mr. Ball.
Did he usually carry his lunch or did he buy his lunch?
Mr. LOVELADY. Most of the time he had fruit and stuff like that, grapes and raisins, stuff like that I noticed a few times he had.
Mr. BALL. What time did you quit work that day or knock off for lunch that day?
Mr. Lovelady.
Same time, 12.
Mr. Belin.
A little before 12?
Mr. LOVELADY. Well, we came down at 10 minutes til to wash up and get ready for it.
Mr. Ball.
Did you come down the elevator?
Mr. Lovelady.
Right.
Mr. Ball.
Who did you go down with?
Mr. LOVELADY. Let me see, I think it was Bonnie Ray Williams on the side I was; I believe so.
Mr. Ball.
Were you having a race with the other boys?
Mr. Lovelady.
Yes, sir; sure was.
Mr. Ball.
Did you see anything or hear anything of Oswald on the way down?
Mr. Lovelady.
Yes; he was on the opposite side of the elevator I was on. I heard him holier to one of the boys to stop, he wanted the elevator. They said, "No; we're going down to lunch," and closed the gate I was on and come down and got ready to watch the President come by or got ready to go to lunch, and that's the last I heard of him.
Mr. Ball.
You were on the west elevator?
Mr. Lovelady.
Right.