Mr. Ball.

And Roy Truly?

Mr. Pinkston.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

What did they tell you when you came down there?

Mr. PINKSTON. To the best of my recollection I was there waiting to see Mr. Truly. He was somewhere else in the building, and I was waiting. for him on the occasion in question. Frankie Kaiser came down the stairs and said that he had found something on the sixth floor. I didn't--I then accompanied him back to the sixth floor where he pointed out on the floor near the entrance to the stair well, a clipboard with some orders on it, and--pardon me a second, do you want me to testify to what Kaiser told me, which is hearsay
Mr. BALL. That is all right, but Kaiser told you that when you were downstairs, that something---didn't he? When he was--did Kaiser come downstairs?

Mr. Pinkston.

Yes: Kaiser came downstairs and took me back upstairs with him and pointed out the clipboard which he had left on the floor.

Mr. Ball.

Did he say he had left it there?

Mr. Pinkston.

He had seen it there and did not bother it.

Mr. Ball.

I see.

Mr. Pinkston.

He did not put it there..

Mr. BALL. I see. Kaiser told you and you went upstairs and Kaiser pointed out the clipboard?

Mr. Pinkston.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

First, the location of the clipboard.

Mr. Pinkston.

The clipboard was generally in the northwest corner of the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository. It was on the floor behind the books, against the wall of the stair well.

Mr. Ball.

There were some book cartons in front of it, were there?

Mr. Pinkston.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

Now, did Frankie Kaiser say something? That is hearsay, but I would like to hear what it was.

Mr. Pinkston.

He told me this clipboard was the one that he had made, and had given to Oswald when Oswald went to work at the School Book Depository.

Mr. Ball.

Did you examine the clipboard?

Mr. Pinkston.

I did, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Did it have anybody's name on it?

Mr. PINKSTON. It had quite a bit of scribbling on it, and I believe well, I am not in a position to say right now exactly what it had on it other than some orders.

Mr. Ball.

It did have some orders on it?

Mr. Pinkston.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

And did you examine the orders?

Mr. Pinkston.

Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Can you tell me the date of the orders and the general description of the orders?
Mr. PINKSTON. Three orders on this clipboard. Each order was dated November 22d. The first was an order from Mrs. Hazel Carroll of the Reading Clinic, SMU, for one Parliamentary Procedure at $1.40. Was published by Scott, Foresman & Co.
And this invoice bore No. 2454. The second one was an order from Dallas Independent School District from Mr. M. 3. Morton, purchasing agent, at the School Administration Building, 3700 Ross Avenue, Dallas, TEA., for 10 ERS, Basic Reading Skills, for high schools, revised, at $1.12, or total of $11.20. Published by Scott, Foresman & Co.
The Invoice was No. 6057.
The third order was an order to be sent to Mr. M. K. Baker, Junior High School, Reynosa, New Mex., for one TE Basic Reading Skills. 3. H. S. use. No charge. Sent at the request of Miss Mary Williams. Publisher; Scott, Foresman & Co., invoice 8291.
Each of these orders, as I say, were dated November 22, 1963.
Mr. BALL. What did you do when you--with the orders after you made these notations?

Mr. Pinkston.

I turned them over to Mr. Truly. He desired to fill the orders.

Mr. Ball.

What did you do with the clipboard?