(Testimony of Joe E. Murphy)
Mr. Ball.
Were these uniformed officers?
Mr. Murphy.
Yes, they were.
Mr. Ball.
Do you know their names?
Mr. Murphy.
No, sir; I don't.
Mr. Ball.
Did they have three-wheelers?
Mr. Murphy.
No; I couldn't say.
Mr. BALL. Now, were there any other people besides the two officers on this railroad overpass?
Mr. Murphy.
There were about 8 or 10---from what I could see---about 8 or 10 men dressed in the overalls and they appeared to be railroad employees.
Mr. Ball.
Can you mark in their positions, approximately?
Mr. Murphy.
Well, they were in a group right in the center of Elm Street.
Mr. Ball.
They were all together?
Mr. MURPHY. Yes; it appeared that they were in a group (Witness Murphy drew circle indicating presence of persons heretofore mentioned as requested by Counsel Ball).
Mr. Ball.
You have drawn a circle there?
Mr. Murphy.
Yes.
Mr. Ball.
And mark that (6).
(Witness Murphy marked the diagram as requested by Counsel Ball.)
Mr. Ball.
And in that circle there were about how many?
Mr. Murphy.
8 to 10 persons.
Mr. Ball.
There were 8 to 10 persons approximately, dressed in overalls?
Mr. Murphy.
Yes.
Mr. Ball.
Did you see any other people on the railroad overpass?
Mr. Murphy.
NO, sir; I didn't.
Mr. Ball.
Could you see the motorcade on Houston from your position (1)?
Mr. Murphy.
Yes; I could.
Mr. BALL. Did you see the President's car turn the corner of Main and Houston?
Mr. Murphy.
Yes; I did.
Mr. Ball.
That was in your view, was it?
Mr. Murphy.
Yes; it was
Mr. Ball.
Was the corner of Houston and Elm within your view?
Mr. MURPHY. Just a portion of it---you lose sight of it there for just a few seconds, as it makes the turn. Well, you lose sight of it. There is some kind of a---on that part there is a concrete, oh, I don't know what you would call it---kind of a framework---it appears to be.
Mr. Ball.
In other words, there is an obstruction to your view?
Mr. Murphy.
Yes.
Mr. Ball.
From where you were sanding at Position (1)?
Mr. Murphy.
Yes.
Mr. Ball.
And the corner of the intersection of Houston and Elm?
Mr. Murphy.
Yes.
Mr. BALL. Were you able to see the President's car after it had turned west on Elm from Houston?
Mr. Murphy.
Well, again there, you just get a very short view of it before it goes out of sight then, going down that hill.
Mr. Ball.
Yon heard shots, did you?
Mr. Murphy.
Yes, I did.
Mr. BALL. Now, from the time you saw the President's car turn north on Houston from Main and until you heard the shots, what direction were you looking?
Mr. Murphy.
I was looking in an easterly direction.
Mr. Ball.
Toward what?
Mr. Murphy.
Toward the motorcade towards the President's car.
Mr. Ball.
Did you keep the motorcade in sight at all times?
Mr. Murphy.
Yes, I did.
Mr. BALL. Did you see anything unusual occur in this group of railroad men where you have marked Position (6)?
Mr. Murphy.
No, I didn't---I did not.
Mr. Ball.
Anybody armed there?
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