Mr. Ball.

And how far away was the other one?

Mr. REILLY. About the width of that overpass across--75 or 80 feet across there.
Mr. BALL. One was 8 or 10 feet from you, and the other one was 75 feet from you and they were both behind you?

Mr. Reilly.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

Did you see the motorcade come down Elm Street?

Mr. Reilly.

No; not until it turned and started to come under the underpass.

Mr. Ball.

Did you see the President's car?

Mr. Reilly.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

Where did you first see it?

Mr. Reilly.

When it turned off of Houston Street and started around.

Mr. Ball.

Onto Elm Street?

Mr. Reilly.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

Is. that the first time you saw the President's car, when it turned off Houston Street onto Elm Street?

Mr. Reilly.

Yes.
Mr. BALL. How many people were there on the overpass at the time time?

Mr. Reilly.

Just what I told you.

Mr. Ball.

Tell me again.

Mr. Reilly.

Well, there was Holland and me and Dick Dodd and those two fellows out there and the two policemen---that's all I remember seeing out there.

Mr. Ball.

Did you hear something?

Mr. Reilly.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

What did you hear?

Mr. Reilly.

Three shots.

Mr. Ball.

Where did they seem to come from; what direction?

Mr. Reilly.

It seemed to me like they come out of the trees.

Mr. Ball.

What trees?

Mr. Reilly.

On the north side of Elm Street at .the corner up there.

Mr. Ball.

On the north side of Elm---on what corner?

Mr. Reilly.

Well, where all those trees are--you've never been down there?

Mr. Ball.

Yes; I've been there, but you tell me---I want you to tell me be-it has to go on the record here and it has to in writing.

Mr. Reilly.

Well, it's at that park where all the shrubs is up there---it's to the

north of Elm Street---up the slope.

Mr. Ball.

Did you see any pigeons fly?

Mr. Reilly.

No; I didn't pay no attention to that.

Mr. Ball.

What did you do after you heard the shots?

Mr. Reilly.

I just stood there a few minutes and then I went on down to the shop.

Mr. Ball.

Which way did you walk?

Mr. Reilly.

South.

Mr. Ball.

South?

Mr. Reilly.

Toward the post office.

Mr. Ball.

Your shop is down south of that place?

Mr. Reilly.

Yes; it's the other side of the station.

Mr. Ball.

Who walked with you?

Mr. Reilly.

Nobody.

Mr. Ball.

You walked alone?

Mr. Reilly.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

I think that's all, Mr. Reilly. This will be written up and you can look it over and correct it if you wish, or you can waive your signature if you wish. Which do you wish--do you want to come down and sign it, or do you want to waive your signature?

Mr. Reilly.

No; I'll do anything you want me to.
Mr. BALL. Well, you do anything you want to--it's your option--what do you want to do?

Mr. Reilly.

I'll sign it.

Mr. Ball.

All right.