Mr. Specter.

"This side"---you are meaning---the east of it?

Mrs. Hill.

The east of it.

Mr. Specter.

Were you beyond the westernmost point of the Texas School Book Depository Building?

Mrs. Hill.

No.

Mr. Specter.

You were still in front of that building?

Mrs. Hill.

. That's right.

Mr. Specter.

Now, is the letter "B" now in the position where you were when you first saw that man?

Mrs. Hill.

Yes.
Mr. SPECTER. Where was that man, indicating with the letter "C," where he was? He was very close to you?
Mrs. HILL Well, he was at the top of this hill---you don't leave me any space in here I mean, there's a distance in here greater than what is shown here.

Mr. Specter.

He was between Elm Street and the Depository Building?

Mrs. Hill.

Yes.

Mr. Specter.

And where did you see him going?

Mrs. HILL. I saw him go toward the tracks, toward the railroad tracks to the west?

Mr. Specter.

What did you observe about that man, if anything?

Mrs. Hill.

That he just had on a brown overcoat and a hat.

Mr. Specter.

Why was your attention attracted to him?

Mrs. HILL. Because he was the only thing moving up there. The other people were all grief stricken and standing there and I don't know what I would have done with 'him when I got up there, but I don't know why I even had the instinct to run, and I don't know that it is anything even connected with this, but since I had already---I have told it and it is part of my recollection, I am just stating it again.
Mr. SPECTER. Well, was there anything about the man that attracted your attention to him beside the fact that he was moving?

Mrs. Hill.

I just thought at the time that's the man that did it.

Mr. Specter.

Why did you think that this was the man that did it?

Mrs. Hill.

I just don't know--I mean-that was my thought.

Mr. Specter.

Did you see any weapon in his hand?

Mrs. HILL. No; I never saw a weapon during the whole time, in anyone's hand.

Mr. Specter.

Did you see that man from the front?
Mrs. HILL. As well as I remember, now, when I saw him he was turning and going to the west.

Mr. Specter.

Was he in the process of turning when you first saw him?

Mrs. Hill.

Yes; I would say he was turning.

Mr. Specter.

So that you had some view of his front part of his body?

Mrs. Hill.

Yes.

Mr. Specter.

And did you see any weapon at that time?

Mrs. Hill.

No, sir; he was three-fourths turned by the time I did see him.

Mr. Specter.

Could you see both of his hands at that time?

Mrs. Hill.

No.

Mr. Specter.

Could you see one of his hands at that time?

Mrs. Hill.

No; I do not even remember seeing his hands.
Mr. SPECTER. I mean, if he was turning, his hands would have been visible, wouldn't they?

Mrs. Hill.

They surely would have been.
Mr. SPECTER. So, what you are saying is, you don't have any recollection of seeing his hands?

Mrs. Hill.

I have no recollection--that's right.

Mr. Specter.

But from the position of his body, his hands would have been in the position where they could have been observed?

Mrs. Hill.

That's right--surely.
Mr. SPECTER. And do you have any recollection of observing any weapon in either hand?

Mrs. Hill.

No; I never saw a weapon the whole time.

Mr. Specter.

Had you moved from point "A" at the time you first saw him?