Mr. Belin.

little bit of grass, and then the lagoon. And we were standing right on the curb there.
Mr. BELIN. You were standing on the curb at about the point where the actual curve of the curb is at the intersection or not?
Mr. FISCHER. I'd say where the curb starts to curve. Because, when the shots were fired, we looked around at the motorcade and couldn't see because uh--of the people that were standing along the curb there. We Just couldn't see it. Had we been on further around, we could have Just looked down the street and seen it.
Mr. BELIN. So, you would have been really standing on the curb which would be the west curb of Houston Street, just where it starts to make the curve to go onto Elm there. Is that correct?

Mr. Fischer.

That's correct.
Mr. BELIN. Now, would you describe what you saw as you were standing on that curb?
Mr. FISCHER. About 10 or 15 seconds before the parade--first car of the parade came around the corner.

Mr. Belin.

Now what corner is that?

Mr. Fischer.

Of Houston and Main.

Mr. Belin.

Uh-huh.

Mr. FISCHER. Which would have been the first time we could have seen any of the cars because of the building---about 10 or 15 seconds before the first car came around that corner, Bob punched me and said, "Look at that guy there in that window." And he made some remark---said, "He looks like he's uncomfortable"--or something.
And I looked up and I watched the man for, oh, I'd say, 10 or 15 seconds. It was until the first car came around the corner of Houston and Main. And, then, when that car did come around the corner, I took my attention off of the man in the window and started watching the parade. The man held my attention for 10 or 15 seconds, because he appeared uncomfortable for one, and, secondly, he wasn't watching-uh---he didn't look like he was watching for the parade. He looked like he was looking down toward the Trinity River and the triple underpass down at the end-toward the end of Ell Street. And--uh--all the time I watched him, he never moved his head, he never-he never moved anything. Just was there transfixed.

Mr. Belin.

In what window did you see the man ?

Mr. FISCHER. It was the corner window on Houston Street facing Elm, in the fifth or sixth floor.

Mr. Belin.

On what side of the first of all, what building was this you saw him in?

Mr. Fischer.

The Texas School Book Depository Building.

Mr. Belin.

And what side of the building would the window have been in?

Mr. FISCHER. It would have been---well, as you're looking toward the front of the building, it would have been to your right.
Mr. BELIN. Well, the building itself has four sides---a north, east, south, and a west side the entire sides of the building. Would this have been the north, south, east, or west side of the building?

Mr. Fischer.

It would have been the south side---the entrance.

Mr. Belin.

All right. Now, on that south side of the building-now, was it the center part of the south side, the east part of the south side, or the west part of the south side?

Mr. Fischer.

The east part of the south side.

Mr. Belin.

All right.
Now, with reference to the east corner of the south side there---would it have been the first window next to that corner, the second, the third, or the fourth---or what?

Mr. Fischer.

First window.

Mr. Belin.

From the east corner of the south side?

Mr. Fischer.

Yes.
Mr. BELIN. Do you remember anything about the man? Could you describe his appearance at all? First of all, how much of him could you see?