Are there any other conclusions which you found from the studies on the goat?
Dr. OLIVIER. No, I believe that is all I can think of right at this moment.

Mr. Specter.

In the regular course of your work for the U.S. Army, do you have occasion to perform tests on parts of human cadavers to determine the effects of bullets on human beings?
Dr. OLIVIER. Yes, I do.

Mr. Specter.

And was a series of tests performed under your supervision on the portions of human cadavers simulated to the wound inflicted on the wrist of Governor Connally?
Dr. OLIVIER. Yes.

Mr. Specter.

Were you familiar with the nature of the wound on Governor Connally's wrist prior to performing those tests?
Dr. OLIVIER. Yes, 1 was.

Mr. Specter.

What was the source of your information on those wounds?
Dr. OLIVIER. I had read the surgeon's report, also talked with Dr. Gregory, the surgeon who had done the surgery, and had looked at the X-rays.

Mr. Specter.

Had you had an opportunity to discuss the wounds with Dr. Gregory and view the X-rays taken at Parkland Hospital, here in the Commission headquarters?
Dr. OLIVIER. Yes; I did.

Mr. Specter.

On April 21, 1964?
Dr. OLIVIER. Yes.

Mr. Specter.

I now hand you an X-ray marked as Commission Exhibit 854, and ask you what that depicts?
Dr. OLIVIER. This is a comminuted fracture of the distal end of the radius of a human arm.

Mr. Specter.

And in what manner was that wound caused?
Dr. OLIVIER. It was caused by a bullet from the Commission Exhibit 139. This was again the 6.5-millimeter Mannlicher- Carcano Western ammunition lot 6,000.

Mr. Specter.

Fired at what distance?
Dr. OLIVIER. Fired at a distance of 70 yards.

Mr. Specter.

And was there anything protecting the wrist at the time of impact?
Dr. OLIVIER. Not protection but there was again clothing, this time suit material or suit lining, at least suit material and shirt. I am not sure about the lining. I can tell you. I have it right here. Suit material, suit lining material, and shirt material.

Mr. Specter.

I now hand you a photograph marked as Commission Exhibit 855 and ask you what that represents?
Dr. OLIVIER. This is a photograph taken from the X-ray, Commission Exhibit 854.

Mr. Specter.

Will you describe for the record the details of the injuries shown on 854 and 855, please?
Dr. OLIVIER. This is a comminuted fracture of the distal end of the radius. It was struck directly by the bullet. It passed through, not directly through but through at an oblique angle so that it entered more proximal on the dorsal side of the wrist and distal on the volar aspect.

Mr. Specter.

How does the entry and exit compare with the wound on Governor Connally which you observed on the X- rays?
Dr. OLIVIER. In this particular instance to the best of my memory from looking at the X-rays, it is very close. It is about one of the best ones that we obtained.

Mr. Specter.

Is there any definable difference at all?
Dr. OLIVIER. I couldn't determine any.

Mr. Specter.

It is close, you say?
Dr. OLIVIER. Yes. If I had both X-rays in front of me if there was a difference I could determine it, but from memory I would say it was for all purposes identical.

Mr. Specter.

I now hand you a bullet in a case marked Commission Exhibit 856 and ask if you have ever seen that before?

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