Mr. Lane.

both of us for perjury. And then at that trial I will present documents in possession, and we will see who is convicted.

Representative Ford.

Do you believe Mrs. Markham is an important witness in this overall matter?

Mr. Lane.

I would think so.

Representative Ford.

I am sure you know what she has told you.

Mr. Lane.

I know what she has told me, that is correct.

Representative Ford.

If there is any difference between what she told you and told this Commission, is that important?

Mr. Lane.

Of course, it is important. And if there was someone representing the interests of Oswald before this Commission there could be cross-examination, you sitting as judges could then base your decision upon the cross-examination. But you have decided instead to sit as judges and jurors and defense attorneys and prosecuting attorneys, and you are faced with a dilemma. I cannot solve that dilemma for you.

Representative Ford.

In order for us to evaluate the testimony she has given us and what you allege she has given you, we must see the information which you have at your disposal.

Mr. Lane.

I have told you precisely under oath what Mrs. Markham has said to me.

Mr. Rankin.

Are you unwilling to verify that with the tape recording that you claim to have?

Mr. Lane.

I am unable to verify that because of an existing attorney-client relationship, and you know that it would be improper and unethical for me to give the answers to the questions which you are asking. And that is why I am amazed that you persist in asking questions which you know are improper and which would be unethical for me to answer.

Mr. Rankin.

And where was this tape recording made?

Mr. Lane.

You have my answer to questions about that already, Mr. Rankin.

Mr. Rankin.

Did you, yourself, have any conversation with Helen Markham at anytime?

Mr. Lane.

Yes; I testified to that on March 4, and again today.

Representative Ford.

Is this tape recording of that conversation?

Mr. Lane.

Precisely.

Mr. Rankin.

Can you tell us where the tape recording was made?

Mr. Lane.

I can tell you, but I will not tell you.

Mr. Rankin.

Do you have any other reasons for not disclosing this information to the Commission except your statement about the attorney and client relationship that you describe?

Mr. Lane.

And the sanctity of working documents of an attorney. I have no other reason whatsoever.

Mr. Rankin.

Mr. Lane, the Commission has asked you a number of times to disclose to it the name of the informant that you said told you about having seen certain persons in the Carousel Club. Are you ready to disclose the name of that informant now?

Mr. Lane.

I am ready, but as I told you when I gave you that information at the outset, I gave my word of honor to that person that I would not disclose his name unless he gave me permission to. I have gone to Dallas on two separate occasions to try to secure that permission. I have not been able to secure that permission. Nothing would make me happier than giving you the name of that person; but I have given my word of honor and, therefore, I am unable to give you that name.

Mr. Rankin.

Do you claim any attorney and client relationship with regard to the name of that informant?

Mr. Lane.

I think there clearly exists an attorney-client relationship, but that is not the motivating factor in my telling you that I will not disclose the name.

Mr. Rankin.

Is that the basis for your refusal to disclose the name?

Mr. Lane.

Obviously if I say yes, you cannot pursue this, but I must tell you honestly that is not the reason.

Mr. Rankin.

Then I ask you to disclose the name of the informant.