Mr. Jenner.

By Mr. Surrey?

Mr. Klause.

Yes, sir. Then I tried to make negatives of them----

Mr. Jenner.

Negatives on film?

Mr. Klause.

Yes, sir; on film.

Mr. Jenner.

Yes.

Mr. Klause.

I could not do it. When I take a picture of copy, on most of your offset or lithography work, you have dot patterns. And when I would try to use my camera, the dot patterns would kind of blur, and you could not see what it was. It was just a big blur. So I sent the negatives of the two pictures downtown, down to Monk Brothers Lithography Service downtown, which shoots nothing but negatives.

Mr. Jenner.

That is J. T. Monk?

Mr. Klause.

Tommy Monk, of Monk Bros.

Mr. Jenner.

J. T. Monk is the father, and Tommy Monk, or J. T. Monk, Jr., is the son.

Mr. Klause.

The only person I know down there is Tommy.

Mr. Jenner.

He is a young man?

Mr. Klause.

No, sir; Tommy I have known 12 or 13 years. He is somewhere around 50, 55, probably.

Mr. Jenner.

Is he the apparent owner or manager at least of this.

Mr. Klause.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Is it a lithography company?

Mr. Klause.

Well, it is a negative service. In other words, what they do is supply the printers with blanks, and ink, and ink knives, different fountain solutions, things like that, for the press, and also they have their own cameras.
They have probably two $15,000 or $20,000 cameras there. And, of course, they can produce work from their cameras I cannot touch on my little camera, or our camera at the shop.

Mr. Jenner.

So you took the two magazine pictures of President Kennedy to Monk Bros.?

Mr. Klause.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

For the purpose of having Monk Bros. make negatives, film negatives of them?

Mr. Klause.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Which in turn were to be employed to do what?

Mr. Klause.

To be employed to be run on this job. I mean it was part of this piece right here.

Mr. Jenner.

And do you recall what the charge was by Monk Bros. for that service?

Mr. Klause.

No, sir; I think it was around three and a half, four and a half, something like that.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you pay in cash?

Mr. Klause.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

And you paid in cash because you did not want it charged to Lettercraft Printing Co.?

Mr. Klause.

No, sir; I originally had a charge account at Monk. Bros. But I still owe a little on my bill down there; and at the time I just rather had paid for it. Not knowing what the job was then anyway--I mean when I go down there and buy supplies for myself, since---I owe the man money, I try whatever I can to pay for, because I have got a pretty nice little bill down there now, and I do not want to run it up any higher.

Mr. Jenner.

When you received the negatives, then what did you do with the negatives?

Mr. Klause.

Well, the bottom part was shot, or picture was made with the camera at our shop; and then I stripped the negative in. In other words, I put the two top pieces, the picture and the bottom part together. And then made a plate on it.

Mr. Jenner.

Made a plate from those negatives?

Mr. Klause.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

In turn to be employed in printing the handbill?

Mr. Klause.

Yes, sir.