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(Testimony of V. J. Brian)
Mr. Brian.
I don't believe there were. I am trying to recall what I had to add that took place there, and----
Representative Ford.
It is important whether or not any statements of facts were altered or whether the changes were simply typographical errors or otherwise.
Mr. Brian.
I will tell you one thing that I recall he called to my attention was 2:05 p.m., I believe, and I told him, I said I can't put that in there because I don't know what time it was, and I don't. I don't have any idea of what time it was, and he said, "Well, all right, leave that out," but I think the substance was probably the same in both reports. In fact, I am sure the substance was probably the same, because it was, the grammar was changed in some places, some spelling was changed, and some strikeovers were changed, and I think probably the second report was copied, that one was copied partially from the first one and then I made some changes.
Representative Ford.
While you were in the process of discussing this with Lieutenant Revill he didn't show you his report, Exhibit 709?
Mr. Brian.
I don't know whether he did or not. I don't believe that he did. I don't believe he did.
Representative Ford.
Had you seen it before?
Mr. Brian.
I have seen the report.
Representative Form.
Did you see it before you typed this up?
Mr. Brian.
I don't recall seeing it. I may have, but I don't recall it.
Now, he has got something in there that I don't have in mine, I know about him saying that Hosty knew that Oswald, I believe, was capable of assassinating the President, but I didn't hear Hosty say that.
Representative Ford.
When did you learn that that statement was in Revill's statement?
Mr. Brian.
Just to be truthful, I don't know.
Mr. Rankin.
Did Lieutenant Revill ask you to include in your statement that Hosty had said that Oswald was known to be capable of being an assassin?
Mr. Brian.
No, sir; he asked me if I heard him say it and I told him no, but I don't believe he asked me to include that in the report.
Mr. Dulles.
You told him, no.
Mr. Rankin.
When was that?
Mr. Brian.
Probably the day--now, this all happened in the course of a week's time and the conversations are hard to put on a day or time, I mean when you don't think--I didn't think all this was real important, and so I didn't try to backlog it to where--it was probably the day, probably about April 20, along in there.
Mr. Rankin.
Before or after you wrote your report?
Mr. Brian.
Inbetween the first report and the second report I imagine.
Mr. Rankin.
I am not quite clear about how you happened to make this report in that I understood you to say that there were some newspaper accounts about it, and the lieutenant said, well, he had said what was true and something like that. Can you tell us what happened?
Mr. Brian.
Well, now, to go back. We were in the office talking and I don't know how long this was because it may have been 2 days, 3 days, 2 weeks or 3 weeks, before I wrote that report, we were sitting in the office, and I don't recall whether it was a newspaper account or what it was, but anywhere somewhere down the line he got--somebody said that it wasn't the truth and he was lying or something and he was sitting out there talking and he said, he said he wasn't lying about it and I told him, I said "I know you are not lying because I stood there and heard you."
And he said, "Oh, you are the one who was with me?" And I said, "Yes."
But I assumed that his report, up until that time I had not seen his report, and I have seen it since then and I haven't read it from one end to the other until the other day, and he said, "Well, I am glad to know you are the one who was there then," and evidently he had forgotten I was there, too.
So, he said, "Well, make me a report on what you heard," and I said, "All right, I will," and he talked to Chief Curry and evidently before he told me that it was a matter of days or time differential in there and I said, "All right,and I just did not get around to it until finally one day I came in the office
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