Representative Ford.

Well, the figure that is shown here for fiscal year 1965 is $7,550,000.

Mr. Rowley.

Yes, sir.

Representative Ford.

Is that the budget submission to the Congress?

Mr. Rowley.

To the Congress; yes, sir.

Representative Ford.

And do you recall what the House approved in its version of the bill?

Mr. Rowley.

$7,500,000. They cut $50,000.

Representative Ford.

Do you recall what the reduction was predicated on?

Mr. Rowley.

No; I don't. I think it was just cut to a round figure.

Representative Ford.

What is the footnote here which is entitled "Pending action by the Senate"? Is that a $669,000 increase?

Mr. Rowley.

That is right.

Representative Ford.

Is that a supplemental?

Mr. Rowley.

No, no; we are just showing the increase this has nothing to do with the $669,000. We show--this was passed by the House, but it is now pending in the Senate for approval. In other words, you have your markup or something, and then it hasn't been submitted to the House for a--to the Senate for approval.

Representative Ford.

But there is an asterisk there.

Mr. Rowley.

Yes; this is the 1965 budget. This figure that was reduced by $50,000, by the House. Now, it goes before for a markup--it will be placed before the Senate for approval.

Mr. Rankin.

Chief Rowley, when you say "this" it doesn't show on the record what you are talking about. So if you can tell what item on that Exhibit No. 1028.

Representative Ford.

On the same line with the language, "Pending action by Senate," on the right-hand side is $669,000, which is labeled as an increase. That increase relates to what?

Mr. Rowley.

It relates to the difference the increase between 1965 and our proposed budget of 1966. The asterisk here relates to the 586 positions.

Mr. Rankin.

Is there any connection between those two? Chief Rowley, is there any connection between the asterisk, and the wording "Pending before the Senate," and the item on the right-hand column of the increase?

Mr. Rowley.

Yes; it represents the increase that we are asking for in the 1966 budget.
Senator COOPER. You are not asking the Senate, though, to increase the House figure of $7,500,000, by $669,000.

Mr. Rowley.

No, no; there is no connection between these increases. This should have been down here, where you explain what the asterisk is, where we have 586. Maybe it was put in the wrong position there. In other words, it is like a footnote. This is pending action--meaning that the House has passed the 1965 budget, but the Senate has yet to pass it.

Mr. Rankin.

But to clarify, there is no connection between the increased figure and the fact that it is pending before the Senate?

Mr. Rowley.

That is right. It happens to be on the same line.

Mr. Rankin.

But there is no connection?

Mr. Rowley.

No, sir.
Senator COOPER. What you mean is the House has passed an appropriation of $7,500,000, and the Senate has not yet acted upon it.

Mr. Rowley.

That is correct.
Senator COOPER. The $669,000 is an increase that you hope will be voted in the next fiscal year.

Mr. Rowley.

That is correct.

Mr. Dulles.

Do you present the budget yourself, or does the Secretary of the Treasury, or someone else in the Treasury Department--present and defend it?

Mr. Rowley.

The Secretary presents the overall Treasury budget, but then in detail, we appear before the appropriations subcommittee ourselves to justify our request.

Mr. Dulles.

The Secret Service justifies its own request in the overall budget of the Department of the Treasury?

Mr. Rowley.

Yes, sir.