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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. V - Page 456« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of James J. Rowley)

Mr. Dulles.
I was a little worried when you said certain people had to be assigned to the White House, that you were under compulsion to assign certain people to the White House in order to retain them.
Mr. Rowley.
No; anyone who works in the White House, whether he is an electrician, a painter, or anything, for a period of 2 years, he automatically comes eligible for permanent civil service status.
Representative Ford.
Is that by law or by regulation?
Mr. Rowley.
That I cannot say. I would always interpret it as under law. I ,may be wrong on that, Mr. Ford. but this is what happens. When our men spend 2 years on the detail at the White House, they come within that classification.
Mr. Rankin.
Chief, can you clarify Commissioner Dulles' inquiry? The Civil Service does not direct that you put certain people in the White House?
Mr. Rowley.
Oh, no; we do that in order to--I see you.r point, sir. We do that in order to give them the permanency that they should have to continue their employment with the Secret Service.
Mr. Rankin.
But that is the choice of the Secret Service rather than anybody else?
Mr. Rowley.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Dulles.
I gather the Civil Service prescribed if they did not do this, they. could not be retained. Is that correct?
Mr. Rowley.
That is right. In other words----
Mr. Dulles.
There is some pressure, I should think.
Mr. Rowley.
There is no pressure, because we voluntarily entered into an agreement with them, sir, for this arrangement, explaining that we frequently don't get from the register the type of men that we want, and that, therefore, we want the opportunity to recruit the men from the universities or Once they have served on the White House detail for a period of 2 years, they would get this permanent status. However, during the 2 years, they have so they get career status. But there is no pressure from the Civil Service. It is a convenience or agreement that they have arranged with us.
Mr. Rankin.
Maybe I can help, Chief. Schedule A is an exemption from the regular civil service roster, is it not?
Mr. Rowley.
That is correct.
Mr. Rankin.
And the register is a list of employees from which you have to otherwise select Government employees if they are not exempt by reason of their positions, is that correct?
Mr. Rowley.
That is right.
Representative Ford.
In other words, Civil Service Commission has set up for the White House detail all inclusive----
Mr. Rowley.
Not necessarily for the White House detail, Mr. Ford. For the Secret Service---to allow us to get the type of individuals that we want for both criminal Investigation and protective work. Because if you say exclusively for the White House detail, the fellow might not be equipped for the White House detail.
Representative Ford.
In other words, every person recruited by Secret Service for any capacity is recruited in the first instance under schedule A.
Mr. Rowley.
Yes; if he hasn't--if he is not on the register for civil service. We first go to the Civil Service. when we want to select somebody, to see if there is anyone on there that meets our qualifications. And then, if not, then we hire them under schedule A, which is sort of a blanket exemption.
Representative Ford.
But I gather from what you have said, or I think you are intimating that most of your recruiting actually is from colleges, and they are under schedule A.
Mr. Rowley.
That is right; yes, sir. Most of them from your State, sir--- Michigan State University.
Representative Ford.
It is a fine school.
Mr. Rowley.
That is where it started, actually. They were the first ones. Now we also recruit on the west coast, in California, they have terrific schools out there.
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