Mr. Jenner.

But the breach in the molding is the same on this photograph as it was when you saw it that night?

Mr. Surrey.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

All right. Now, the next photograph is Exhibit No. 1007, and purports to be a photograph taken from the outside of General Walker's home with the camera pointed into his home.

Mr. Surrey.

That is correct.

Mr. Jenner.

And----

Mr. Surrey.

It shows the same breach allegedly caused by a bullet----

Mr. Jenner.

That is shown on Exhibit 1006?

Mr. Surrey.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

And in the case of Exhibit No. 1006, that photograph represents the present condition of that casement and that window and that screen, as well as it was when you saw it on the evening of April 10, 1963? Insofar as the breach is concerned?

Mr. Surrey.

Yes; I seem to recall more cobwebbing effect than it shows in the photograph.

Mr. Jenner.

Exhibit No. 1008 purports to be a room in General Walker's home, and a wall, with a bullet hole shown in it.

Mr. Surrey.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you recognize that room?

Mr. Surrey.

Yes; I do.

Mr. Jenner.

And is that a picture of one of the rooms in General Walker's home?

Mr. Surrey.

Yes; it is.

Mr. Jenner.

Where is it with respect to the room shown in Commission Exhibit No. 1007?

Mr. Surrey.

It is the same room.

Mr. Jenner.

The same room?

Mr. Surrey.

Yes; all this material has been turned around, from that night.

Mr. Jenner.

You are referring in your last comment to Commission Exhibit No. 1007, some pamphlet materials you see shown in that photograph?

Mr. Surrey.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, turning your attention to Commission Exhibit No. 1008, does the wall that is shown on that exhibit face the casement window shown on Exhibit No. 1007, or is that the reverse side?

Mr. Surrey.

It is the other wall, the other side of the room from the window.

Mr. Jenner.

Is that the wall in which the bullet entered, or the wall, the side of the wall from which the bullet exited?

Mr. Surrey.

That is the side of the wall that it entered.

Mr. Jenner.

All right. Then I show you Commission Exhibit No. 1009.

Mr. Surrey.

Yes; this is the next room now where the bullet exited.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, taking Exhibits Nos. 1008 and 1009, am I correct, sir, that Exhibit No. 1008 shows the wall on the entry side of the bullet, and Exhibit No. 1009 is the reverse side of the wall shown on Commission Exhibit No. 1008?

Mr. Surrey.

That is correct.

Mr. Jenner.

In other words, the side of the wall that the bullet exited?

Mr. Surrey.

That is correct.
Now, this picture was taken at the time, or soon thereafter, because this material was in this position.
(At this point, Senator Cooper withdrew from the hearing room.)

Mr. Jenner.

All right, sir.
You are able to say, from your familiarity with the condition of matters on the evening of April 10, 1963, that both Commission exhibits----

Mr. Surrey.

No; that one I don't know.

Mr. Jenner.

That Commission Exhibit No. 1009 depicts the condition of that room, which is the room to the reverse side of Commission Exhibit No. 1008, as it was the evening of April 10, 1963.

Mr. Surrey.

Substantially the same; yes.

Mr. Jenner.

And even including the boxes and packages of material?

Mr. Surrey.

That is correct.