Mrs. Oswald.

Mr.McKENZIE. Latch.

Mrs. Oswald.

Latch or something like that.

Mr. Dulles.

How could he close it from the inside and then get out?

Mrs. Oswald.

When he was inside he could close it from the inside so that I couldn't come in.

Mr. Dulles.

But when he came out could he close it from the outside so that you could not get in?

Mrs. Oswald.

No; from the outside it couldn't be locked.

Representative Ford.

When you went to New Orleans and packed for the trip to New Orleans, did yon help to pack the pistol or the rifle?

Mrs. Oswald.

No, no; Lee never let me pack things when we went for trips. He always did it himself.

Representative Ford.

Did you see him pack the pistol or the rifle?

Mrs. Oswald.

No.

Representative Ford.

Did you know the pistol and the rifle were in the luggage going to New Orleans?

Mrs. Oswald.

I stayed for some time with Ruth Paine after he left for New Orleans and I don't know whether they were in his things or they were in the stuff which was left with me.

Representative Ford.

At the time Mrs. Paine picked you up to go to the bus station, did you intend to go by bus to New Orleans at that time?

Mrs. Oswald.

No.

Representative Ford.

While you were living on Neely Street you didn't tell us before of any extensive rifle shooting at Love Field or rifle practice at Love Field. Can you tell us more about it now?

Mrs. Oswald.

Lee didn't tell me when he was going out to practice. I only remember one time distinctly that he went out because he took the bus. I don't know if he went to Love Field at that time. I don't--after all this testimony, after all this testimony, when I was asked did he clean his gun a lot, and I answered yes, I came to the conclusion that he was practicing with his gun because he was cleaning it afterwards.

Representative Ford.

Did he take the rifle and the pistol to Love Field or at the time he went on the bus?

Mrs. Oswald.

Only the rifle.

Mr. Mckenzie.

Just a minute. Let me ask her a question. May I ask a question?

Representative Ford.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Mckenzie.

Representative Ford, I wasn't here as you know when Mrs. Oswald testified before. I have been with her when she was interrogated by the FBI relative to practicing the rifle shooting. This is the first time that I have heard the use of the words "Love Field." Has there been prior testimony by Mrs. Oswald here that he was practicing at Love Field, because the reason I ask this is because she has steadfastly in the past told me and the FBI that she didn't know where he went to practice and that is the reason I wanted to know.

Mr. Rankin.

The record is----

Mrs. Oswald.

I don't know where he practiced. I just think that the bus goes to, went to Love Field.

Mr. Rankin.

Her testimony before was that the bus that he took, that she knows about when he went, was a bus that went to Love Field, and she thought he went to some place in that area to do his practicing.

Mr. Mckenzie.

The reason I ask the question, Mr. Rankin, is because I don't believe there is any practice area at Love Field for rifle practicing.

Mr. Rankin.

Well, the investigation that the Commission has made shows that there is a place near Love Field where people do shooting and practicing.

Mr. Mckenzie.

Not at Love Field.

Mr. Rankin.

It is right adjacent, in the neighborhood.

Mrs. Oswald.

Once we went out with Kathy Ford with the children to watch airplanes landing and these airplanes made a tremendous noise and for that reason I thought that maybe my husband was practicing somewhere in that area because you couldn't hear the sound of shots. I don't know if there is any place near there where one can practice shooting, though. This idea just came to me