Mr. Rankin.

Do you recall the bathroom, how the door closes? Does it close into the bathroom on Neely Street or from the outside in?

Mrs. Oswald.

I don't remember now. I don't remember. I only remember that it was something to do with the bathroom.

Mr. Rankin.

Did you lock him into the bathroom?

Mrs. Oswald.

I can't remember precisely.

Mr. Rankin.

Do you recall how the locks were on the bathroom door there?

Mrs. Oswald.

I can't recall. We had several apartments and I might be confusing one apartment with the other.

Mr. Rankin.

Is it your testimony that you made it impossible for him to get out if he wanted to?

Mrs. Oswald.

I don't remember.

Representative Ford.

Did he try to get out of the bathroom?

Mrs. Oswald.

I remember that I held him. We actually struggled for several minutes and then he quieted down. I remember that I told him that if he goes out it would be better for him to kill me than to go out.

Mr. Dulles.

He is quite a big man and you are a small woman.

Mrs. Oswald.

No; he is not a big man. He is not strong.

Mr. Dulles.

Well, he was 5 feet 9, and you are how tall?

Mrs. Oswald.

When he is very upset, my husband is very upset he is not strong and when I want to and when I collect all my forces and want to do something very badly I am stronger than he is.

Mr. Dulles.

You meant mentally or physically?

Mrs. Oswald.

I am not strong but, you know, there is a certain balance of forces between us.

Mr. Dulles.

Do you think it was persuasion, your persuasion of him or the physical force or both that prevented him from going?

Mrs. Oswald.

I don't think it was physically, physical prevention because if he--I couldn't keep him from going out if he really wanted to. It might have been that he was just trying to test me. He was the kind of person who could try and wound somebody in that way. Possibly he didn't want to go out at all but was just doing this all as a sort of joke, not really as a joke but rather to simply wound me, to make me feel bad.

Mr. Mckenzie.

Mr. Rankin, if I may interpose here for a moment. Mrs. Oswald has been interrogated at length by the FBI in connection with this particular incident--the Nixon incident. I feel confident that the FBI has made a written report insofar as her testimony is concerned in their interrogation, but for purposes of the record I have no objection whatsoever for the FBI report to be included in the record as part of the record.

Mr. Rankin.

Thank you, Mr. McKenzie. We will incorporate those reports as a part of the record in regard to this incident, if that is agreeable to the Commission.

Mr. Mckenzie.

The reason I say that is because of the fact that those interrogations were conducted at an earlier date and closer to the actual incident, the state of time, closer to the actual incidents than her interrogation here today, and insofar as dates are concerned I think that her mind would be clearer on those dates, and I likewise know that at that time a Russian interpreter was there.

Mr. Rankin.

Mr. McKenzie, I think with the members of the Commission here that I want to ask a number of questions about this incident because of its importance so they can observe the witness as well as have the benefit of her testimony.

Mr. Mckenzie.

Mr. Rankin, in no way am I suggesting otherwise but if it would help the Commission in evaluating her testimony and evaluating the evidence that it has had heretofore in prior testimony we have no objection to those reports being a part of the record in any way.

Mr. Rankin.

Thank you.

Mrs. Oswald.

I might be mistaken about some of the details of this incident but it is very definite he got dressed, took a gun, and then didn't go out. The reason why there might be some confusion in my mind about the details because it happened in other apartments in which we lived that we quarreled and then I would shut him in the bathroom, and in this particular case it may not have