Mr. Revill.

by this window. Well, I asked him who Mr. Lee was, he said, "It is a white boy." He didn't know his full name. So, I turned this Givens individual over to one of our Negro detectives and told him to take him to Captain Fritz for interrogation, and while going to the city hall, or the police station I passed this detective and Givens, and they came into the homicide and robbery bureau shortly after Hosty and I did, so I am sure Captain Fritz did talk to Mr. Givens.

Mr. Rankin.

When did you learn that Oswald had been arrested?

Mr. Revill.

I really don't know, sir. Because time, we were all shocked that this thing had happened in our city and I personally felt that maybe a sense of responsibility, maybe we could have done more to prevent this thing. I just don't know when I heard that he had been arrested.

Mr. Rankin.

Did you know it by the time you went to Lieutenant Wells' office?

Mr. Revill.

No, sir; I did not. He may have been in the office at that time.

Mr. Rankin.

You didn't know that Oswald was already in the police department?

Mr. Revill.

No, sir; I did not. I had been in this building since word came of the shots being fired until about 2:30, 2:35, and at that time I decided that my unit could possibly do more at our office where we kept all of our files, cataloging these people, the suspects that were running through my mind at that time. So, I was, I put out a call for all of the intelligence unit personnel to meet me at the office and I got no reply to this because they were all up in the special service bureau. We had been assigned to the Trade Mart, and. two or three of my officers had taken into custody four or five of these picket carriers, and we did this more for protection than anything else because after the word came of the assassination, well, I am afraid they would have been mobbed, and they were all up in the special service bureau booking these prisoners at the time, and I decided we would stop by the special service bureau office, to report back to my captain and see if there was something we could do there. And as I pulled into the basement this conversation took place with Mr. Hosty.

Mr. Rankin.

And the particular words about Oswald being capable of being an assassin those were told you by Agent Hosty in the elevator?

Mr. Revill.

No, sir; either just outside the elevator and as we got on. He never mentioned this again because I guess I lost my temper at him for withholding this type of information.

Mr. Rankin.

I see. Did you do anything about losing your temper, did you say anything?

Mr. Revill.

No; Jim Hosty and I are friends, and this has hurt me that I have involved Hosty into this thing, because he is a good agent, he is one of the agents there that we can work with; that has been most cooperative in the past, and I worked with him just like he is one of us.

Mr. Rankin.

You went to the third floor on the elevator?

Mr. Revill.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Rankin.

Who else went with you?

Mr. Revill.

Detective Brian and Hosty, the elevator was--had several people on it. I don't recall who they were.

Mr. Rankin.

Was Detective Brian on that elevator?

Mr. Revill.

Yes, sir; he was.

Mr. Rankin.

At that same time?

Mr. Revill.

He went to the third floor with me.

Mr. Rankin.

And you are sure Agent Hosty was on the elevator with you?

Mr. Revill.

Yes, sir; he was.

Mr. Rankin.

And you are sure you were on the elevator?

Mr. Revill.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Rankin.

Now, will you tell us exactly what you said to Hosty and also what he said to you?

Mr. Revill.

After hearing about the information that they were purported to have had----

Mr. Rankin.

Have you told us all the information that Hosty told you?

Mr. Revill.

As well as I recall; yes, sir.

Mr. Rankin.

Now, did you say anything to him about it?

Mr. Revill.

Yes, sir.