Mr. Coleman.

That is Commission Document No. 2. It hasn't been marked as an exhibit yet.

Mr. Dulles.

Oh, it has not been marked. I don't understand what that number can be.

Mr. Coleman.

That is the number, Commission Document No. 2.

Mr. Dulles.

Commission Document No. 2 prepared by the State Department. It is stated here that on March 16th the Soviet Affairs Office of the State Department advised the Visa Office of the Department of State, and in that it said that the Soviet had already issued an exit visa. So Marina had the exit visa some time before March 16, 1962.
Do you know the date when the exit visa was granted?

Mr. Mcvickar.

Well, sir, I left in September of 1961, and so I don't know the details of this part of the case, but I think it is consistent because in fact, I did see in the record that the exit visa was received by the Embassy on about January the 12th, as I recall it.

Mr. Coleman.

1962?

Mr. Mcvickar.

Of 1962, and that, therefore, the Embassy would then have proceeded with the documentation and the processing, some of which had already been initiated to get them out.

Mr. Dulles.

So that 5 months of the delay in their getting out was American regulations?

Mr. Mcvickar.

Sir, I cannot speak for that part of it because I don't know about that personally. I think it is possible that it may have had something to do with Oswald's personal arrangements and that sort of thing, or maybe the Soviet--I just don't know. I do know that it was our policy to expedite these operations as quickly as possible after these exit visas took place.

Mr. Dulles.

I only know that this exhibit that I referred to states, if I can take your date of January 12, 1962, for the date that the exit visa was issued to Mrs. Oswald, the Immigration and Naturalization Service did not agree to the waiver of section 243 (g) until May 9, 1962.

Mr. Mcvickar.

That would have been something that had been going on in Washington then, and I just don't know. It may be. I don't know what considerations would have taken place.

Mr. Dulles.

So that if we take the time it took them to get their exit visas, you have got to subtract really 5 months for American regulations.
I am not criticizing the regulations or the study that was given to it or whether they did or did not grant it. I am just referring to the question of the time, so that in considering the remarkably short time it took these two to get out, 5 months were American regulations, or approximately 5 months, if the January 12 date is correct. No; it would be 4 months, wouldn't it, February, March, April, May, 4 months were American regulations.

Mr. Mcvickar.

It does look as though at that time there was a certain amount of consideration.

Mr. Dulles.

I am not blaming anyone for giving this the fullest possible consideration. That is all I have.

Representative Ford.

Do you have some exhibits?

Mr. Coleman.

For the record, Commission Exhibit No. 911 which is the McVickar memorandum of November 17, 1959.
Representative FORD. It may be admitted.
(The document referred to, previously marked as Commission Exhibit No. 911 for identification, was received in evidence.)

Mr. Coleman.

Commission Exhibit No. 941, which is the McVickar memorandum of November 27, 1963.

Representative Ford.

It may be admitted.
(The document referred to, previously marked as Commission Exhibit' No. 941 for identification, was received in evidence.)

Mr. Coleman.

Commission Exhibit No. 942, which is the note which Mr. McVickar wrote for the Oswald file on November 9, 1959.

Representative Ford.

It may be admitted.
(The document referred to, previously marked as Commission Exhibit No. 942 for identification, was received in evidence.)