Mr. Carr.

Well, thank you, sir. I will say this, that it has been a very pleasant experience for us, and I think set a good example of how a State government and a Federal Government can cooperate together where we have common objectives such as this, where we are trying to determine the facts and nothing else.

Mr. Dulles.

May I add my voice to that, Mr. Chief Justice?

The Chairman.

Yes; indeed, you may.

Mr. Dulles.

I know that has been true as far as I am personally concerned, and during our trip to Dallas, Mr. Carr was of great help to us. Could I ask just one question?

The Chairman.

Yes, indeed.

Mr. Dulles.

Was there any indication in the call from the White House as to whether this was a leftist, rightist, or any other type of conspiracy or, as far as you recall, was just the word "conspiracy" used?

Mr. Carr.

As far as I recall, it was an international conspiracy. This was the idea, but I don't know whether the word "Communist" was used or not, Mr. Dulles. It could have been, or maybe I just assumed that if there was a conspiracy it would only be a Communist conspiracy. I don't know which it was, but it was a perfectly natural call.
The circumstances that existed at the time, knowing them as I did, and the tension and the high emotion that was running rampant there, it was not inconceivable that something like that could have been done, you understand., without any thought of harming anyone or any thought of having to prove it, as long as you didn't know that under our Texas law you have to prove every allegation made in an indictment. If you didn't know that, it might seem logical that someone might put something like that into an indictment, factual or not.

Mr. Dulles.

Thank you very much.

Mr. Carr.

But there was no such thing going on.

The Chairman.

Well, General, I think that will be all then. Thank you very much.

Mr. Carr.

Yes, sir.

The Chairman.

The Commission is adjourned.
(Whereupon, at 2:50 p.m., the President's Commission recessed.)

The Chairman.

Tuesday, June 9, 1964

Testimony of Richard Edward , John A. Mcvickar, Snyder

Testimony of Richard Edward Snyder

The Chairman.

The President's Commission met at 10 a.m., on June 9, 1964, at 200 Maryland Avenue NE., Washington, D.C.
Present were Chief Justice Earl Warren, Chairman; Senator John Sherman Cooper, Representative Gerald Ford, and Allen W. Dulles, members.
Also present were William T. Coleman, Jr, assistant counsel; W. David Slawson, assistant counsel; Charles Murray, observer; and Dean Robert Storey, special counsel to the attorney general of Texas.
Richard Edward Snyder
TESTIMONY OF RICHARD EDWARD SNYDER

The Chairman.

(Members present at this point: Chief Justice Warren, and Mr. Dulles)

The Chairman.

Gentlemen, the Commission will come to order. Mr. Coleman, would you make a statement as to the purpose of the meeting this morning?

Mr. Coleman.

Mr. Chief Justice, the first witness is Mr. Richard E. Snyder, who is presently first secretary in the American Embassy in Tokyo, Japan, and