Representative Ford.

slight hesitation Governor Connally's body turns more violently than the President's body?

Mr. Shaneyfelt.

Yes.

Representative Ford.

The President's only reaction is a motion to his throat or to his neck with his hands.

Mr. Shaneyfelt.

That is correct.

Representative Ford.

Whereas Governor Connally actually turns his body rather sharply?

Mr. Shaneyfelt.

Yes; he turns as they go behind the signboard, he turns this way and he is turning a little bit this way and as he comes out of the signboard he is facing slightly to the right, comes around straight on and then he turns to his left straight on, and then he turns to his right, continues to turn around and falls over in Mrs. Connally's lap.
But in the motion picture it is a continuous movement as he goes around and fills.
Senator COOPER. Will you again answer my question which I asked and hasn't been answered and I say with all respect, in what frame did Governor Connally begin to turn to the right after he had placed his position straightforward as you have testified.

Mr. Shaneyfelt.

I am sorry. That starts approximately at frames 233 to 234.
Senator COOPER. In what frame does the photograph show or in what frame is it shown that President Kennedy had moved his hands to his throat?

Mr. Shaneyfelt.

That shows on frame--it is clearer on frame 226, 225 is the frame where you first see him, and frame 226.

Mr. Dulles.

How many frames between those two?

Mr. Shaneyfelt.

From 26 to 33, eight. That would be a fraction of a second in time.
That is less than half second.

Representative Ford.

It can be contended that based on these photographs of films that the first shot apparently was fired in frames 220 to 224, in that area.

Mr. Shaneyfelt.

Yes; I think you have to go back even to 210 because of reaction times; we don't know reaction times. But I would say between 210 and 225 because at 295 we have the President reacting.
So, in that 15 frames there it is behind the signboard, we can't see what is happening.

Mr. Dulles.

What frame first shows him with his hands at his throat?

Mr. Shaneyfelt.

225, 226.

Mr. Mccloy.

225, it is not too clear. It is much more pronounced in the next frame is where he puts his both hands to his throat, such as that.

Mr. Dulles.

And Mrs. Kennedy has apparently turned around and looking at him.

Mr. Mccloy.

One hand may be coming down from waving in 225.

Mr. Dulles.

That is his left hand there--no; it is his right hand, your right. His right hand.

Representative Ford.

Then based on the mathematics of how quickly a second shot could be fired, the second shot would be fired in approximately what frame? If you assume it, the first shot is from 210 to 224.

Mr. Shaneyfelt.

It would be 252 to 266, down in there.

Representative Ford.

That would be the elapsed time of what?

Mr. Shaneyfelt.

Two and a quarter seconds.

Representative Ford.

Two and a quarter seconds.

Mr. Shaneyfelt.

That is the very quickest.

Mr. Specter.

On fixing the range from frames 210 to 225, where the President was first struck, did you take frame 210 because that was the first point after the President had passed out from under the oak tree?

Mr. Shaneyfelt.

Yes; that is the first point from this, and although we are able to see in the films that there is no apparent reaction from the President from 205 to 210, and as he disappears from behind the signboard, we cannot estimate the reaction time.

Mr. Specter.

When you say reaction time you mean?

Mr. Shaneyfelt.

Of the President?