Representative Ford.

And heard the conversation?

Mr. Hosty.

Yes, sir; he did.

Mr. Stern.

Did you report anything about this conversation to the New Orleans office?

Mr. Hosty.

No; because there was nothing new to report. I knew I was to become the office of origin. There would be a report which I would be Preparing and I would incorporate it in my report. There was nothing new that they didn't already know that would aid them.

Mr. Stern.

Is there anything else about this interview on November 5 that you can tell us?

Mr. Hosty.

No, sir; that is about all.

Representative Ford.

Was this comment by Mrs. Paine that Oswald had said he was a Trotskyite----

Mr. Hosty.

Trotskyite Communist was the word she used; yes, sir.

Representative Ford.

Was that new as far as your knowledge of your file was concerned?

Mr. Hosty.

Well, he was a self-admitted Marxist. He had stated that earlier. The New Orleans office had reported that. He had been on television and made that statement in New Orleans, so this appeared to be in keeping with his character.

Representative Ford.

The use of the word Trotskyite didn't add anything to the previous Marxist identification?

Mr. Hosty.

Well, of course, that is a particular type of Marxism, Trotskyite, the followers of Leon Trotsky's particular deviation, but this did show that he was not a member of the Communist Party USA, follower of the Leninist-Stalinist-Khrushchev movement, but would be an independent Marxist would be what it would show me, not tied in with the regular Communist Party USA.

Representative Ford.

Is there anything particularly identifiable with the Trotskyite element that might alert you to anything?

Mr. Hosty.

Well, yes. The Socialist Workers Party is the Trotskyite Party in the United States, and they are supposedly the key element in the Fair Play for Cuba Committee, or were the key element in the Fair Play for Cuba Committee. So this would tie in with the fact that he was a member of the Fair Play for Cuba Committee, and, therefore, he claimed to be a Trotskyite this would follow.

Mr. Mccloy.

Do you associate with Trotskyite Communists any greater disposition to acts of violence than the normal Communist?

Mr. Hosty.

No, sir; no more than the others.

Mr. Mccloy.

No doctrine of policy by assassination?

Mr. Hosty.

No, sir.

Mr. Stern.

Have you reviewed, Mr. Hosty, the document that has been marked No. 830 for identification preliminary to your testimony today?

Mr. Hosty.

Oh, yes; this one you gave me earlier; yes, sir.

Mr. Dulles.

I don't find a date on that. Maybe there is one there.

Mr. Hosty.

This is an insert, sir. The date of the various information will appear at the head of each paragraph.

Mr. Dulles.

I see. But the date of preparation is not----

Mr. Hosty.

The date of preparation would be some time after the 22d of November.

Representative Ford.

What do those identification numbers at the top in the left-hand corner mean?

Mr. Hosty.

That is our Dallas office file number 105-1716.

Representative Ford.

Does that appear on the other documents?

Mr. Hosty.

Wait a minute; this relates to a control file. I believe that is the control file on Mrs. Paine, Mrs. Paine's file number.

Mr. Dulles.

I wonder if I could just interrupt.
This is on the record. I am not quite clear, maybe because I came in late. Are you from the Dallas or New Orleans office? Mr. HOSTY. I am from the Dallas division.

Mr. Dulles.

From the Dallas division?

Mr. Hosty.

Yes, sir.