Mr. Stern.

How do you mean before you approached Mrs. Paine?

Mr. Hosty.

Well, it was my intention since we could not determine where Lee Oswald was, that he was obviously not at her address, that the best way to find out would be to ask Mrs. Paine.

Mr. Stern.

And you were doing all this in connection with the original request?

Mr. Hosty.

Right

Mr. Stern.

From the New Orleans Office?

Mr. Hosty.

Right

Mr. Stern.

And that was?

Mr. Hosty.

To locate Lee Oswald.

Mr. Stern.

What did you do next?

Mr. Hosty.

The next day was the 1st of November. I worked in the Fort Worth area in the morning and on my way back from the Fort Worth area at approximately 2:30 p.m., I stopped at the residence of Mrs. Ruth Paine, 2515 West Fifth Street, and identified myself as a special agent of the FBI, and asked if I could talk to her. She was very cordial and friendly, invited me into the house. At this time, she was the only one in the living room. Her small children were taking their nape, and apparently Marina Oswald and her children were, also napping.

Mr. Stern.

Excuse me, Mr. Hosty. I show you Commission Exhibit No. 430, which is a floor plan of the Paine home.

Mr. Hosty.

Right.

Mr. Stern.

Can you show the Commission from this where you went as you came into the house and where you talked to Mrs. Paine?

Mr. Hosty.

This is the front door, and we talked right here in the living room. I believe the couch was right along here. I believe I sat here and Mrs. Paine sat here, right here in the living room. We were the only two in the living room, to start with.

Mr. Stern.

Did you conduct this interview alone?

Mr. Hosty.

Yes, sir; I was the only agent present.

Mr. Stern.

Is that usual or unusual?

Mr. Hosty.

It is the usual custom when we are talking to a person who is not a subject or a hostile witness, and Mrs. Paine was not considered a hostile witness.

Mr. Stern.

Can you show us from Exhibit 430 approximately where you parked your car that day if you recall?

Mr. Hosty.

I don't recall specifically. I do recall that her station wagon was parked in the driveway. There was another car in front of the house, and it is my recollection that I parked, perhaps, here.
There is another house right next door here which was vacant, and I believe I parked in front of the vacant house right next door.

Mr. Stern.

Would you put your initials where you think you parked your car, on that exhibit, please? It was about that close to the front of the house, you believe?

Mr. Hosty.

Yes; it was not directly in front of the house because there was another car. Michael Paine, apparently, had two cars, and he kept one of them over here and he used the other one where he was now living. He left his other car here and there was a station wagon in the driveway.

Representative Ford.

Is Mrs. Roberts' residence on----

Mr. Hosty.

Mrs. Roberts' residence is over here, sir.

Representative Ford.

On the other side?

Mr. Hosty.

Right, This is a vacant house.

Mr. Stern.

The top of that page is north.

Mr. Hosty.

Right. This would be 2519, 2515, and probably 2511 here.

Mr. Stern.

2511, you are indicating the east side of that diagram?

Mr. Hosty.

East, yes. It would go east.

Mr. Stern.

2519 the west side?

Mr. Hosty.

West side, that is correct.

Mr. Stern.

North being the top?

Mr. Hosty.

Right.

Mr. Stern.

Now, tell us in detail of your interview with Mrs. Paine starting from the time you rang the doorbell.