Mr. Fain.

and we are interested only in getting facts on this case, facts, and all I could say is that he seemed tense.

Mr. Dulles.

He seemed tense?

Mr. Fain.

Tense, yes, sir; and drawn up. I don't know whether he was just scared or what his situation was, but he was-- he exhibited an arrogant attitude arrogant, cold, and inclined to be just a little insolent.

Mr. Steam.

When he did tell you something would you tend to believe that he was telling you the truth or not? Did you form an impression of his veracity?

Mr. Fain.

Well the information we had was that he had applied to renounce his citizenship, and he had applied for Soviet citizenship, and yet he denied that. It was just a fiat denial and I had no way of knowing whether he was telling the truth or not. It is a thing that you cannot always tell. We got answers from him as set out here. He would give you some kind of answer.

Mr. Stern.

Who was your immediate superior on a case like this, not his name, but describe his function.

Mr. Fain.

He was on the desk in Dallas, and all of these investigations, all of my work, went across his desk. He would make the assignments also.

Mr. Stern.

Tell the Commission what you mean by "the desk," please.

Mr. Fain.

The supervisory desk in the Dallas office that handled security-type matters, and this report would go across his desk, and the assignments that would come to me would be made by him.

Mr. Stern.

Did you discuss the Oswald case with your desk supervisor at this time, upon the completion of this interview?

Mr. Fain.

I don't recall specifically talking to him at this time. If I had been over there in the next few days I imagine I would have talked to him or did talk to him. You see, I was in Fort Worth.

Mr. Stern.

Yes.

Mr. Fain.

And normally I would dictate my reports, and they would go by mail to Dallas and, of course, we were in telephonic contact, any time anything came up of any problem nature.

Mr. Stern.

Would you have discussed the case with your supervisor if you thought that there was a particular and immediate problem?

Mr. Fain.

Oh, certainly; yes, sir.

Mr. Stern.

Did you think that there was a particular and immediate problem following your interview?

Mr. Fain.

Well, I didn't feel satisfied because of his answers there as to why he went to Russia. He was evasive, and that was the reason I set out a lead to have him reinterviewed.

Mr. Stern.

What do you mean by that, Mr. Fain?

Mr. Fain.

To talk to him again. You see, at this time he had just come to town and he was out there at his brother's place. He had a wife and a little 4-month-old baby that he had brought from Russia, and he didn't have any established place to live, and I can see how the newspapers may have harrassed him, and it might have been, very likely was, that he didn't want to show himself out of the house, but I felt under the circumstances he ought to be talked to again, he ought to be interviewed in detail about these same things and, consequently, I did set out a lead.

Mr. Stern.

What does that mean in terms of your procedures?

Mr. Fain.

In my report I just suggested that he be reinterviewed.

Mr. Stern.

Is that in this report?

Mr. Fain.

That might have been my transmittal--no, it doesn't show here. It is probably on the transmittal to the chief of the Dallas office.

Mr. Stern.

A recommendation that he be----

Mr. Fain.

A recommendation, yes, that he be reinterviewed because I wasn't thoroughly satisfied with some of the answers he gave.

Mr. Dulles.

I wonder, Mr. Chairman, whether we should not have that transmittal letter; it seems to be pertinent to the case.

Representative Ford.

I think it would be helpful in light of the testimony, Mr. Fain.

Mr. Fain.

It was a lead sheet, what we call a lead, and I recall that on that I suggested that the records of Immigration and Naturalization Service be