Mr. Fain.

It was not.

Mr. Stern.

How did you record what he was telling you, in your usual fashion?

Mr. Fain.

I was sitting behind the desk. He came up and sat down in front of the desk, and Mr. Carter was sitting to my left. We explained to him, we wanted to talk to him. I took the notes, and from my notes I dictated this, which we call an FD-302.

Mr. Stern.

This is your memorandum and not Agent Carter's?

Mr. Fain.

That is right; I was more familiar with the case. I took the notes and did the dictation.

Mr. Stern.

And the dictation was when?

Mr. Fain.

July 2, 1962; transcribed July 6, 1962.

Mr. Stern.

These dates appear where?

Mr. Fain.

The date of dictation is shown on the lower right-hand corner; date of interview at the left, and date of transcription or typing was on July 6, upper right-hand corner.

Mr. Stern.

What was Lee Harvey Oswald's demeanor in the course of this interview?

Mr. Fain.

He was tense, kind of drawn up, and rigid. He is a wiry little fellow, kind of waspy.

Mr. Stern.

Did he answer all of your questions?

Mr. Fain.

No; he didn't. As indicated there in the fourth paragraph, he was a little insolent in his answers. He was the type of individual who apparently doesn't want to give out information about himself, and we asked him why he had made this trip to Russia, and he looked like it got under his skin, and I noticed he got white around the lips and tensed up, and I understood it to be a show of a temper, and in a show of temper he stated he did not care to relive the past. He didn't want to go into that at all. We asked him, I think I asked him, in various ways, three or four times, trying to ascertain just what the situation was, and he finally stated, that Soviet officials had asked him upon his arrival why he had come to Russia, and he told us, "I came because I wanted to." That is what he said he told the Soviet People, "I came because I wanted to," and he said, he told them, "I came over here to see the country." That is the kind of answers he gave.

Mr. Stern.

Do you remember any other details of this interview that you haven't set forth here? I can't stress too greatly that we are interested in any detail, any fragment of this interview that you recall that isn't set forth here, any elaboration you want to make.

Mr. Fain.

No----

Mr. Stern.

Why don't you read it through carefully now and, as you go through, add to it in any way that you wish to, tell us anything else that you remember, any small detail that occurs to you. I don't mean read it out loud, read it to yourself.

Mr. Fain.

I see.
Our primary objective at this time was to ascertain whether or not the Soviets had demanded anything of him in letting him get out of the country and permit-ring his wife to come along with him, and you will notice down there in paragraph 12----

Mr. Stern.

Page 12.

Mr. Fain.

Excuse me, page 12, paragraph 4 of page 12, he stated that the Soviets made it very difficult for him to obtain permission for his wife to leave Russia, and that the process of obtaining permission for her to leave was a long, difficult course requiring much paper work. But he was just referring there to the length of time, and he. denied that they had attempted to get anything from him or demand anything from him; and he denied that they had ever sought information from him of detriment to our country.
I don't recall anything, anything in addition to what is set out here.

Mr. Mccloy.

No suggestion that he was a secret agent?

Mr. Fain.

No, sir.

Mr. Mccloy.

He had made no such suggestion to you as to that?

Mr. Fain.

No, sir.

Mr. Mccloy.

Did you ever have any suspicion that he might have been?