Mr. Cole.

B-4 and one in B-6. It shows a fair range of variation, especially with to finishing the lower part of that letter. Now, I would judge the one on B-3 to be definitely a part of his writing habit, because it gives the impression of having been made with a considerable amount of freedom. Generally, a larger form is made more freely, more naturally, than a smaller form.

Mr. Mccloy.

I see.

Mr. Cole.

And you see you have got sort of a cramped effect across the base of the "I" in A-7.

Mr. Mccloy.

What I am getting at is. you don't suggest that all these "I's" and all these "J's" exactly conform, but you are talking in terms of similarities that turn up in certain of them that you believe are significant?

Mr. Cole.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Eisenberg.

Mr. Cole, I now hand you an item consisting of a Yellowish card entitled "International Certificates of Vaccination as approved by The World Health Organization," and so forth, PHS Form 731, and reading in part, "This is to certify that Lee Oswald, whose signature follows" and with the the signature, "Lee H. Oswald," date of birth and so forth, "has on the date indicated been vaccinated or revaccinated against smallpox," with a date appearing in a rubber-stamp printing, what appears to be rubber-stamp printing, "June 8, 1963," and a rubber-stamp signature of "Dr. A. J. Hideel, P.O. Box 30016, New Orleans, La "with some type of stamp on the right side next to the name, and a signature "A. J. Hidell" over the name; and I ask you whether you have examined this item?

Mr. Cole.

I have.

Mr. Eisenberg.

Mr. Chairman, may this be admitted as Commission Exhibit 813?

Mr. Mccloy.

It may be admitted.
(The document referred to was marked as Commission Exhibit No. 813, and received in evidence.)

Mr. Eisenberg.

Now, I also will show you Commission Exhibit 115, which consists of a Warrior rubber stamping kit which has already been introduced in evidence in connection with testimony of Marina Oswald, and which was found at one of Oswald's residences, and ask you whether you have examined this Commission Exhibit 115?

Mr. Cole.

Yes, sir; I have.

Mr. Eisenberg.

Did you attempt to determine whether the signatures "Lee H. Oswald" and "A. J. Hideel" on Commission Exhibit 813 were prepared by the author of the standards?

Mr. Cole.

Yes, sir; I did.

Mr. Eisenberg.

What was your conclusion?

Mr. Cole.

It is my conclusion that the author of the standard writing is the author of the writing you just described.

Mr. Eisenberg.

Did you attempt to determine whether the apparent rubber-stamp printing had been produced by use of the Warrior kit, Exhibit 115?

Mr. Cole.

I did.

Mr. Eisenberg.

What was your conclusion?

Mr. Cole.

It is my conclusion that the kit could have been used for producing the rubber-stamp printing on--Exhibit 813 is it?

Mr. Eisenberg.

Yes. Did you prepare a photograph of 813, Mr. Cole?

Mr. Cole.

Yes; I did.

Mr. Eisenberg.

Will you produce that photograph? You have produced two photographs, one of which shows the outside or exterior portion of 813, and the other one shows the interior portion?

Mr. Cole.

Correct; yes.

Mr. Eisenberg.

Did you take each of these photographs?

Mr. Cole.

I did.

Mr. Eisenberg.

And are they accurate reproductions of the Exhibit 813?

Mr. Cole.

They are.

Mr. Eisenberg.

Approximately what enlargements are these, by the way?

Mr. Cole.

About 1 1/2 diameters.

Mr. Eisenberg.

These are what size photographs?