Mr. Mccloy.

Are the pictures in the record?

Mr. Fritz.

Yes, sir; we have them in the record, the ones we made over there. I suppose you have them here.

Mr. Mccloy.

Do we have the pictures?

Mr. Ball.

I don't believe we have any pictures that you made.

Mr. Fritz.

Of the one we made over in the backyard.

Mr. Mccloy.

I think it is important we get those because of the charge this picture was doctored. Have a picture of the premises which these pictures were taken.

Mr. Ball.

Maybe Lieutenant Day has them.

Mr. Fritz.

No, sir; those pictures were made with--we have them, I am sure of that, our men made the pictures. I believe we have them right here. Maybe we didn't bring them, but we have them.

Mr. Ball.

Could you send them to us?

Mr. Fritz.

Yes; Lieutenant Day may have some with him. His men have them.

Mr. Ball.

Maybe Lieutenant Day has them. I have a few questions here. You mentioned that Hosty, the first day he was there you said that he said he knows these people. Did he tell you that he knew Oswald?

Mr. Fritz.

Well, I Will tell you, he wasn't talking to me really.

Mr. Ball.

What did he say to Oswald?

Mr. Fritz.

That was the agent--what did Hosty say to Oswald?

Mr. Ball.

Yes.

Mr. Fritz.

Or what did----

Mr. Ball.

Did Hosty say?

Mr. Fritz.

I thought you meant what about Shanklin said to Hosty.

Mr. Ball.

Did Hosty say to you that he knew Oswald?

Mr. Fritz.

I heard Mr. Shanklin tell Mr. Hosty on the telephone. I had Mr. Bookhout pick up the telephone and I had an extension.

Mr. Ball.

What did he hear?

Mr. Fritz.

He said is Hosty in that investigation, Bookhout said no. He said, "I want him in that investigation right now because he knows those people he has been talking to," and he said some other things that I don't want to repeat, about what to do if he didn't do it right quick. So I didn't tell them that I even knew what Mr. Shanklin said. I walked out there and called them in.

Mr. Ball.

Was Oswald handcuffed at all times during the interrogation?

Mr. Fritz.

I believe he was; yes, sir, I believe we kept him handcuffed at all times. The first time we brought him in he was handcuffed with his hands behind him and he was uncomfortable and I had the officers change them and put his hands up front.

Mr. Ball.

Was he fed any time during that day?

Mr. Fritz.

Yes, sir; he was. I don't remember buying him something to eat. I usually do, if they are hard up in Jail at the time I buy something to eat but some of the other officers remember me buying him food but the only thing he would drink was I believe some milk and ate a little package of those crackers sandwiches and one of the other officers bought him a cup of coffee and that is all he would either eat or drink, that is all he wanted.

Mr. Ball.

Now he talked to his wife and----

Mr. Fritz.

And his mother.

Mr. Ball.

And his brother, Robert?

Mr. Fritz.

Yes, sir; I am pretty sure he did.

Mr. Ball.

Where did he talk to them?

Mr. Fritz.

I believe that would be up in the jail. He didn't want them in my office.

Mr. Ball.

Do you have that jail---

Mr. Fritz.

Wait just one second. No, sir; that was in the jail.

Mr. Ball.

Is the jail wired so that you can listen to conversations?

Mr. Fritz.

No, sir; it isn't. Sometimes I wish I could hear some of the things they say but we don't.

Mr. Ball.

In other words, you don't monitor conversations?