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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. IV - Page 210« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of J. W. Fritz)

Mr. Fritz.
And I don't remember just what else. I asked him just the general questions for getting acquainted with him, and so I would see about how to talk to him, and Mr. Hosty spoke up and asked him something about Russia, and asked him if he had been to Russia, and he asked him if he had been to Mexico City, and this irritated Oswald a great deal and he beat on the desk and went into a kind of a tantrum.
Mr. Ball.
What did he say when he was asked if he had been to Mexico City?
Mr. Fritz.
He said he had not been. He did say he had been to Russia, he was in Russia, I believe he said for some time.
Mr. Ball.
He said he had not been in Mexico City?
Mr. Fritz.
At that time he told me he had not been in Mexico City.
Mr. Ball.
Who asked the question whether or not he had been to Mexico City?
Mr. Fritz.
Mr. Hosty. I wouldn't have known anything about Mexico City.
Mr. Ball.
Was there anything said about Oswald's wife?
Mr. Fritz.
Yes, sir. He said, he told Hosty, he said, "I know you." He said, "You accosted my wife on two occasions," and he was getting pretty irritable and so I wanted to quiet him down a little bit because I noticed if I talked to him in a cairn, easy manner it wasn't very hard to get him to settle down, and I asked him what he meant by accosting, I thought maybe he meant some physical abuse or something and he said, "Well, he threatened her." And he said, "He practically told her she would have to go back to Russia." And he said, "He accosted her on two different occasions."
Mr. Ball.
Was there anything said about where he lived?
Mr. Fritz.
Where he lived? Right at that time?
Mr. Ball.
Yes.
Mr. Fritz.
I am sure I had no way of asking him where he lived but I am not too sure about that--just how quick he told me because he corrected me, I thought he lived in Irving and he told me he didn't live in Irving. He lived on Beckley as the officer had told me outside.
(At this point Mr. Dulles entered the hearing room.)
Mr. Fritz.
And I asked him about that arrangement and I am again, I can't be too sure when this question was asked. I asked him why his wife was living in Irving and why he was living on Beckley and he said she was living with Mrs. Paine. Mrs. Paine was trying to learn to speak Russian and that his wife, Mrs. Oswald, had a small baby and Mrs. Paine helped with the baby and his wife taught Mrs. Paine Russian and it made a good arrangement for both of them and he stayed over in town. I thought it was kind of an awkward arrangement and I questioned him about the arrangement a little bit and I asked him how often he went out there and he said weekends.
I asked him why he didn't stay out there. He said he didn't want to stay out there all the time, Mrs. Paine and her husband didn't get along too well. They were separated a good part of the time and I asked him if he had a car and he said he didn't have a car, he said the Paines had two ears but he didn't use their cars.
Mr. Ball.
Did you ask him anything about his address or did he volunteer the address?
Mr. Fritz.
He volunteered the address at Beckley?
Mr. Ball.
Yes.
Mr. Fritz.
Well, I will tell you, whether we asked him or told him one, he never did deny it, he never did deny the Beckley Street address at all. The only thing was he didn't know whether it was north or south.
Mr. Ball.
Did you ask him whether it was north or south?
Mr. Fritz.
Yes, but he didn't know. But from the description of surroundings we could tell it was North Beckley.
Mr. Ball.
Up to that time you hadn't sent any men out to North Beckley, had you?
Mr. Fritz.
Well, I sent them out there real soon and Officer Potts called me back from out there and talked to me on the telephone and gave me a report from out there on the telephone, and I am sure that that is the time that he told me about the way he was registered, and I asked Oswald about why he was registered under this other name.
Mr. Ball.
What other name?
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