Mr. Fritz.

need a report for this investigation, and we started immediately to making this. We didn't know at that time the attorney general would need one of these but when we were told he would need one we, of course, sent him one, too.

Mr. Ball.

What I want to do is distinguish between the books you are looking at for this record.

Mr. Fritz.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

You have a book that is of some size there?

Mr. Fritz.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

And you call that what?

Mr. Fritz.

Well, "Investigation of the Assassination of President Kennedy."

Mr. Ball.

That is the same as Commission's Document No. 81B. Now, then, you have a smaller book before you, haven't you?

Mr. Fritz.

Yes; a little index book.

Mr. Ball.

An index.

Mr. Fritz.

It really is an index book for this larger file but it is kind of a quick reference book.

Mr. Ball.

I see. Now, what time did you, what time was it that you heard the President had been shot?

Mr. Fritz.

I show that he was shot at 12:35, and one of the Secret Service men who was assigned the same location where we were assigned, got a little call on his, evidently got a call on his little transistor radio and Chief Stevenson, who was also assigned to some part of the building there, came to me and told me that the President had been hit at the underpass, and asked me to go to the hospital and see what I could do.

Mr. Ball.

You say you show he was shot at 12:35?

Mr. Fritz.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

You mean that is the time you heard about it?

Mr. Fritz.

Well, we heard about it immediately after that, and we arrived and we checked----

Mr. Ball.

What time did you hear about it?

Mr. Fritz.

Just when Chief Stevenson came to me and told me.

Mr. Ball.

Did you make a note of it at the time?

Mr. Fritz.

No, sir; I didn't make a note of it at the time.

Mr. Ball.

When you heard of this what did you do?

Mr. Fritz.

Immediately left, and I told the two officers with me, Mr. Sims and Boyd that we would run to our police car that was parked nearby, listened to radio call to see whether it was a hoax or whether it was the truth. It was only 10 minutes' time for the President's arrival, we didn't want to leave unless this was a genuine call, and a true call.
When we got to the radio, of course, we began to get other news. We went to Parkland Hospital as we had been instructed, and as we drove up in front of the hospital, we I suppose intercepted the chief, Chief Curry, between the curb and the hospital, and I told him we had had a call to the hospital but I felt we were going to the wrong place, we should go to the scene of the crime and he said, "Well, go ahead," so I don't think our car ever quit rolling but we went right to the scene of the crime.

Mr. Ball.

Did you go directly to a building?

Mr. Fritz.

Directly to the Texas School Book Depository Building.

Mr. Ball.

What time did you arrive there?

Mr. Fritz.

Well, sir; we arrived there---we arrived at the hospital at 12:45, if you want that time, and at the scene of the offense at 12:58.

Mr. Ball.

12:58; the Texas School Book Depository Building.

Mr. Fritz.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

Were there any officers there at the time?

Mr. Fritz.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

In the front?

Mr. Fritz.

Several officers; yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Do you know who they were?

Mr. Fritz.

I couldn't give you the name of all of them.

Mr. Ball.

What did you do when you got to this building?

Mr. Fritz.

Some officer told us they thought he was in that building, so we had our guns----