Mr. Rankin.

Yes. And that is what you were trying to satisfy?

Mr. Curry.

That is what I was trying to do.

Mr. Rankin.

Those are all the questions.

Mr. Mccloy.

I don't think I have anything else.

Mr. Rankin.

Thank you very much, Chief, for all of your help.

Mr. Curry.

Thank you for your consideration.

Mr. Rankin.

I want to offer the Exhibits 701 through 708, both inclusive.

Mr. Mccloy.

They may be admitted.
(Commission Exhibits Nos. 701 through 708 were received in evidence.)

J.W. Fritz

Testimony of J. W. Fritz

Mr. Mccloy.

You know the purpose of what we are here for, captain?

Mr. Fritz.

I think so.

Mr. Mccloy.

We have a very broad mandate to look into all the circumstances relating to these unfortunate incidents that occurred in Dallas on November 22 last year, and thereafter.

Mr. Fritz.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Mccloy.

And we have had Chief Curry on this morning, as I am sure you understand, and we would like to continue our investigation through you. We understand that you were in very direct contact with this problem of investigation, and I will ask you to stand and raise your right hand, sir.
Do you solemnly swear the testimony you will give in this hearing will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?

Mr. Fritz.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Will you state your name, please?

Mr. Fritz.

J. W. Fritz.

Mr. Ball.

Where do you live?

Mr. Fritz.

I live in Dallas.

Mr. Ball.

Could you tell us something about yourself; tell us where you were born and what your education is and what your training has been as a police officer?

Mr. Fritz.

I was born in Dublin, Tex., and lived there for several years. My father moved to New Mexico, and I grew up at Lake Arthur, N. Mex. And then I came back to Texas, and came to the police department in January of 1921, and have been there ever since.

Mr. Ball.

You Started as a patrolman, did you, in the Dallas Police Department?

Mr. Fritz.

Yes, sir; I started as a patrolman, worked as a patrolman approximately 2 years, I am not sure of the exact time and I was then moved to the detectives' office and have come up through the ranks there, up and down.

Mr. Ball.

You are now a captain of police, are you?

Mr. Fritz.

Captain of homicide and robbery bureau; yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

How long have you held that office?

Mr. Fritz.

Since. it was set up, I believe, in 1932 or 1933, I am not sure.

Mr. Ball.

You have been head of homicide and robbery detail since 1932 or 1933?

Mr. Fritz.

That is right. I have had other jobs, too. One time I had the whole CID; they didn't call it CID at that time; they called it detectives' office, but I kept the homicide and robbery under my supervision during that time. I later went back with the homicide and robbery, full time.

Mr. Ball.

Is there a division of detectives separate from homicide and robbery?

Mr. Fritz.

Well, we call it now the CID. It would be ordinarily called the detective division; yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Who is in charge of that?

Mr. Fritz.

Who is in charge of it?

Mr. Ball.

Yes.

Mr. Fritz.

Of course. we are all directly under the chief, and Chief Stevenson is the head of the CID, M. W. Stevenson.

Mr. Ball.

Have you had any special training in police schools or places like that?