Mr. Curry.

I believe he also said, "I couldn't think, stand the thought of having Jacqueline Kennedy having to return to Dallas and go through a trial for him." I told him this was not for the Secret Service or not for publication, I just asked him the question but he said, "I did not warn him against himself, about his constitutional rights, so I don't know that I would be allowed to testify to this."

Mr. Rankin.

When did Sorrels first tell you that?

Mr. Curry.

This was the--it seems to me like several days after this occurred.

Mr. Rankin.

Did you report that to anyone?

Mr. Curry.

I believe I told Chief Stevenson about it or whoever was---or perhaps Captain or Inspector Sawyer or some of them. This information was relayed on to the investigating group.

Mr. Rankin.

Do you know whether they recorded it any place?

Mr. Curry.

No; we called the officers, when I say we, the investigating team did talk with the officers and they recall hearing this testimony.

Mr. Rankin.

Do you know when they first gave you any information that they knew of any such conversation?

Mr. Curry.

I don't recall that; no, sir.

Mr. Rankin.

Do you recall that the officers ever said to you or placed in writing in any memorandum or communication to you that they heard Ruby say anything beyond what you have described Mr. Sorrels to say?

Mr. Curry.

No, sir.

Mr. Rankin.

If your records show that the first time any such information was communicated to you, was around February 18, 1964, would you think that was a correct record?

Mr. Curry.

Perhaps it is. When Sorrels, if that is when he says it is when it was, perhaps that is when it was. But this was prior to Ruby's trial that I know that he came forward with this information and he said, "It is possible they can use this testimony in the trial of Ruby", but he didn't feel like that he could testify to it because he had not warned him of his constitutional rights.
But that these officers were present, and if they overheard it, then he said, "You ought to at least talk to Henry Wade about it and he might be able to get that in his testimony on that basis."

Mr. Rankin.

You think that Dean was one of the officers involved who overheard it?

Mr. Curry.

I believe he was.

Mr. Rankin.

And who else?

Mr. Curry.

I don't recall now. It is in our reports.

Mr. Rankin.

Was the officer Archer?

Mr. Curry.

I believe Officer Archer was there.

Mr. Rankin.

Was it Officer Newcomb?

Mr. Curry.

I believe so.

Mr. Rankin.

Do you believe whether they testified to something like that at the trial?

Mr. Curry.

I was not present during the trial but I understand they did testify.

Mr. Rankin.

Do you know whether or not those officers made a report about what they knew about the killing of Oswald prior to February 18?

Mr. Curry.

I don't believe they did.

Mr. Rankin.

You don't think they made any report to you or to the FBI or anybody else?

Mr. Curry.

Not to my knowledge.

Mr. Rankin.

So if they did not include such information in any report or statement prior to February 18, 1964, you don't know it?

Mr. Curry.

That is correct, I do not know it.

Mr. Mccloy.

May I ask, when was, has there been testimony as to when Agent Sorrels told the chief that he had heard this?

Mr. Rankin.

I don't recall the date.

Mr. Curry.

But it was--I don't recall the date but it was sometime after the shooting of Oswald.