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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. IV - Page 109« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Dr. Robert Roeder Shaw)

Mr. Dulles.
but on the lateral position or the upper position, as the wrist is held in a neutral position.
Mr. Specter.
With the additional information provided by the coat, would that enable you to give an opinion as to which was the wound of entrance and which the wound of exit on the Governor's wrist?
Dr. SHAW. There is only one tear in the Governor's garment as far as the appearance of the tear is concerned, I don't think I could render an opinion as to whether this is a wound of entrance or exit.
Mr. Specter.
Then, do you have sufficient information at your disposal in total, based on your observations and what you know now to give any meaningful opinion as to which was the wound of entrance and which the wound of exit on the Governor's wrist?
Dr. SHAW. I would prefer to have Dr. Gregory testify about that, because he has examined it more carefully than I have.
Mr. Specter.
Fine.
Mr. Dulles.
Could you tell at all how the arm was held from that mark or that hole in the sleeve?
Dr. SHAW. Mr. Dulles, I thought I knew Just how the Governor was wounded until I saw the pictures today, and it becomes a little bit harder to explain.
I felt that the wound had been caused by the same bullet that came out through the chest with the Governor's arm held in approximately this position.
Mr. Specter.
Indicating the right hand held close to the body?
Dr. SHAW. Yes, and this is still a possibility. But I don't feel that it is the only possibility.
Senator COOPER. Why do you say you don't think it is the only possibility? What causes you now to say that it is the location----
Dr. SHAW. This is again the testimony that I believe Dr. Gregory will be giving, too. It is a matter of whether the wrist wound could be caused by the same bullet, and we felt that it could but we had not seen the bullets until today, and we still do not know which bullet actually inflicted the wound on Governor Connally.
Mr. Dulles.
Or whether it was one or two wounds?
Dr. SHAW. Yes.
Mr. Dulles.
Or two bullets?
Dr. SHAW. Yes; or three.
Mr. Dulles.
Why do you say three?
Dr. SHAW. He has three separate wounds. He has a wound in the chest, a wound of the wrist, a wound of the thigh.
Mr. Dulles.
Oh, yes; we haven't. come to the wound of the thigh yet, have we?
Mr. Mccloy.
You have no firm opinion that all these three wounds were caused by one bullet?
Dr. SHAW. I have no firm opinion.
Mr. Mccloy.
That is right.
Dr. SHAW. Asking me this now if it was true. If you had asked me a month ago I would have.
Mr. Dulles.
Could they have been caused by one bullet, in your opinion?
Dr. SHAW. They could.
Mr. Mccloy.
I gather that what the witness is saying is that it is possible that. they might have been caused by one bullet. But that he has no firm opinion now that they were.
Mr. Dulles.
As I understand it too. Is our understanding correct?
Dr. SHAW. That is correct.
Senator COOPER. When you say all three are you referring to the wounds you have just described to the chest, the wound in the wrist, and also the wound in the thigh?
Dr. SHAW. Yes.
Senator COOPER. It was possible?
Dr. SHAW. Our original assumption, Senator Cooper, was that the Governor was approximately in this attitude at the time he was----
Senator COOPER. What attitude is that now?
Dr. SHAW. This is an attitude sitting in a jump seat as we know he was,
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