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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. III - Page 97« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Ruth Hyde Paine Resumed)

Mrs. Paine.
I have mentioned two times.
Mr. Jenner.
Yes.
Mrs. Paine.
And that was all.
Mr. Jenner.
That was all. So up to the time of the assassination, the only interviews with the FBI to your knowledge were on the first?
Mrs. Paine.
That is right.
Mr. Jenner.
You will recall your testimony yesterday, Mrs. Paine, of the incident in which a telephone call was made by you at the request of Marina using the telephone number that has been left with you by Lee Oswald, and your inability to locate him, in fact the person who answered the telephone stated that there was no Lee Oswald living there. Do you recall your testimony on that score?
Mrs. Paine.
Yes.
Mr. Jenner.
Did you report that to the FBI?
Mrs. Paine.
No; I did not.
Mr. Jenner.
You also recall your testimony with respect to the draft of the proposed letter which I think is before you, and that is Commission exhibit number?
Mrs. Paine.
130.
Mr. Jenner.
Did you call the FBI and advise them of that incident?
Mrs. Paine.
No; I did not.
Mr. Jenner.
And without seeking to have you repeat your testimony, were your reasons for not doing so the same as the one that you gave when I asked you whether you had given Agent Hosty the telephone number?
Mrs. Paine.
No; not identical. Certainly I didn't think that they had any information of such a letter, whereas I did think they knew where he lived or could easily find out, and of course they could also come to the house and
see him at my house as he came on weekends.
Mr. Jenner.
You did say to the FBI?
Mrs. Paine.
I did.
Mr. Jenner.
That he would be at your home on weekends.
Mrs. Paine.
And I judged by the fact they didn't come that this was not someone they were terribly worried about talking to immediately. Both this letter, and the telephone conversation really, the one that followed it, where Marina reported to me that he was using a different name, were something new and different in the situation that made me feel this was a man I hadn't accurately perceived before.
I have said my impression in reading the letter was--I have said something similar to this that of a small boy wanting to get in good with the boys, trying to use words that he thought would please. I didn't know to whom he addressed himself, but it struck me as something out of Pravda in his terminology. And I knew, as I have testified, that several of the statements in it were flatly false, and I wondered about the rest, and then when I heard that he was using a different name, that again was indication of a great disregard for truth on the part of Lee Oswald.
Mr. Jenner.
Now what time of day did the interview on November 1 take place?
Mrs. Paine.
Afternoon.
Mr. Jenner.
Late?
Mrs. Paine.
Middle of the afternoon. My memory is there were no children around which means it was nap time.
Mr. Jenner.
It couldn't have been along about 5 o'clock in the afternoon?
Mrs. Paine.
It was a Friday, wasn't it?
Mr. Jenner.
Yes, it was.
Mrs. Paine.
And he probably came out that Friday.
Mr. Jenner.
You were just telling the agent, you had told the agent, had you not, that he came on weekends.
Mrs. Paine.
I did.
Mr. Jenner.
And he arrived on Fridays?
Mrs. Paine.
I did.
Mr. Jenner.
And this was a Friday?
Mrs. Paine.
It was, and you will recall yesterday----
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