Mr. Jenner.

Excuse me. You were present when Marina put a question to---

Mrs. Paine.

She did not ask him.

Mr. Jenner.

Oh, she did not.

Mr. Mccloy.

She did not.

Mr. Jenner.

Oh, I am sorry.

Mrs. Paine.

Certainly not in my presence.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you have any impression as to how long he had been at your home prior to your driving down the street and first seeing him?

Mrs. Paine.

He usually arrived from his ride with Wesley Frazier somewhere around a quarter of 5, so I guess it was a few minutes to 10 minutes.

Mr. Jenner.

You arrived at your home in the neighborhood of 5:25 or 5:30.

So it is your impression that he had been at your home from 10 to 15 minutes?

Mrs. Paine.

No; I say from a few minutes to 10 minutes.

Mr. Jenner.

A few minutes to 10 minutes. Did Marina say anything that evening of his having a package with him when he came to your home?

Mrs. Paine.

No; she didn't.

Mr. Jenner.

No discussion of that nature occurred?

Mrs. Paine.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

I am going to put a general question to you. Do you have any recollection at all of Lee Oswald actually being in the garage of your home that evening?

Mrs. Paine.

I have said that I had the feeling from traffic that had preceded it that he was in the bedroom when I saw he was no longer in the rest of the house. When I saw the light was on, my distinct thought was that he had left it on. I think that was founded upon an awareness of what Marina had been doing and I suppose what he was doing.

Mr. Jenner.

You say doing. You mean an awareness--

Mrs. Paine.

In other words, it was common for both Marina and Lee to go to the garage, but when I saw the light was on I was certain it was Lee that had left it on.

Mr. Jenner.

Rather than Marina?

Mrs. Paine.

Rather than Marina.

Mr. Jenner.

Because of her habit of turning off lights?

Mrs. Paine.

Not only that. I feel that I--memory of what she had been doing during the time that I was also putting the children to bed. She was involved with the children.

Mr. Jenner.

May we possibly do this. Did you see Marina in the garage at anytime?

Mrs. Paine.

That evening?

Mr. Jenner.

That evening.

Mrs. Paine.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

You did not see Lee Oswald in the garage at anytime that evening?

Mrs. Paine.

Did not see him in the garage; no.

Mr. Jenner.

Mr. Chairman, I intend at this moment to proceed to the next day. I wondered if members of the Commission have any further questions of Mrs. Paine with respect to the afternoon or evening of November 21?

Mr. Mccloy.

I don't have any. I think she has covered it all. I would remind you that we have got to be leaving, Mr. Ford and I, and Senator Cooper around noon. We would like to make as much progress as we can before we go.

Mr. Jenner.

That is fine. I will have completed this phase.

Senator Cooper.

If you can get through the events of the 22d.

Mr. Jenner.

You retired along about 11:30?

Mrs. Paine.

That is my recollection.

Mr. Jenner.

The evening of the 21st. Did you sleep through the night?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes. I woke at 7:30.

Mr. Jenner.

The children did not awaken you at anytime during the night and nothing else awakened you?

Mrs. Paine.

I don't recall that anything woke me; no.

Mr. Jenner.

Is your recollection sufficient that you were not awakened during the night, that is your definite impression at the moment?