Mr. Cunningham.

That is correct.

Mr. Eisenberg.

Now Mr. Frazier yesterday said that the Walker bullet seemed to be a 6.5 millimeter bullet or may have been fired from the 6.5 millimeter Mannlicher-Carcano rifle, had the same general rifling characteristics as was found on that rifle which is in evidence as Commission Exhibit--

Mr. Cunningham.

139.

Mr. Eisenberg.

Yes; 139.
Now do you have a complete file of 6.5 or a large file of 6.5 millimeter ammunition?

Mr. Cunningham.

We have some.

Mr. Eisenberg.

Do you feel it is as complete as your .38 Special file?

Mr. Cunningham.

No; I do not. However, we have never found any foreign manufacturer manufacturing 6.5 Mannlicher-Carcano ammunition that was similar to this.
From its general appearance, it has all the similarities of a western-world-manufactured bullet--

Mr. Eisenberg.

Now this is Commission--

Mr. Cunningham.

In other words, the knurling is typical--the physical characteristics were similar to those of the bullets manufactured by the Western Cartridge Co.

Mr. Eisenberg.

This is Commission Exhibit 573, which is the as to which Mr. Frazier has testified, and which is believed to be the bullet found in the Walker residence.
Are you familiar with it?

Mr. Cunningham.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Eisenberg.

And you have examined it as well as Mr. Frazier?

Mr. Cunningham.

I have.

Mr. Eisenberg.

Would you say that this bullet was a 6.5 mm. Western copper-jacketed Mannlicher-Carcano bullet?

Mr. Cunningham.

I would.

Mr. Eisenberg.

As definitely as yon say the bullets which we have just been looking at are respectively Remington-Peters and Western-Winchester .38 Special bullets?

Mr. Cunningham.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Dulles.

Could I see that just a moment? What did that hit, the brick wall of the house?

Mr. Cunningham.

I have no idea, sir.

Mr. Dulles.

You don't know?

Mr. Cunningham.

I don't know. I have no first-hand knowledge of it. It is in essentially the same condition as when we received it in the laboratory, and all I know would be what has already been furnished your Commission by report.

Mr. Dulles.

Thank you.

Mr. Eisenberg.

Now given the fact that that was a 6.5 millimeter Mannlicher-Carcano cartridge, could that have been fired in any other 6.5 millimeter rifle?

Mr. Cunningham.

No, sir; it has to be a rifle that is chambered specifically for this particular cartridge. In other words, there are other 6.5 millimeter cartridges.

Mr. Eisenberg.

Now, as I understand it, your conclusion and Mr. Frazier's was only that this cartridge, that this bullet, could have been fired from Exhibit 139 or a rifle with similar--

Mr. Cunningham.

On the basis of the rifling characteristics it could have been fired from 139. However, there are insufficient marks remaining to determine whether or not it had actually been so fired.

Mr. Eisenberg.

Now the testimony yesterday as I recall it was that it was fired either from Exhibit 139 or from a rifle with similar, or from a weapon with similar rifling characteristics?

Mr. Cunningham.

That is correct.

Mr. Eisenberg.

But according to your testimony it would have to be similar to a 6.5 millimeter Mannlicher-Carcano rifle?