Mr. Cunningham.

time on the morning of November 23d, and it was delivered to the Laboratory by Special Agent Vincent Drain of the Dallas office of the FBI.

Mr. Eisenberg.

And the remaining bullets?

Mr. Cunningham.

By the way, it was returned go Dallas, and then it was returned to the Laboratory, delivered again by Special Agent Vincent Drain, of the Dallas office, also, Special Agent Warren De Brueys. They delivered our Q-13 a second time on November 27th.

Representative Ford.

When you say "our," what do you mean by "our"?

Mr. Cunningham.

In other words, to facilitate reporting in the Laboratory, we usually give these items a Q or a K number. A Q number is a questioned item, like a bullet from a body, and a known is a gun, the K is a known, like a weapon.
That is for reporting purposes. But since this case began, we have so much evidence, and we have received so much evidence, it was considered practical to reassign a C number by us--like Mr. Eisenberg said, they are C- 253, C-252, and C-251. They also have a Q number. Q-13 is C-13. That is the reason why I said "our" Q-13.

Mr. Eisenberg.

When did you examine Q-13, Mr. Cunningham?

Mr. Cunningham.

November 23d, the first time. That was when I made my examination. It was returned on the other date. But it was examined on 11-23.

Mr. Eisenberg.

Now, Q-13 has in it a brass colored object, as well as a bullet-that is, the box containing Q-13, your Q-13.

Mr. Cunningham.

Yes. That was identified as the button--the button--from the coat of Officer Tippit. The bullet struck that button and when the bullet was removed from the body, the button was also removed.

Representative Boggs.

Went right in?

Mr. Cunningham.

Yes, sir. I have no first-hand knowledge. But that is what it was identified as.

Mr. Eisenberg.

Mr. Chairman, I would like these four bullets admitted as 602, 603, 604, and 605.

Representative Ford.

They will be admitted.
(The articles referred to were marked Commission Exhibits Nos. 602 through 605, and received in evidence.)

Mr. Eisenberg.

When did you receive what are now marked 603, 604, and 605, Mr. Cunningham?

Mr. Cunningham.

They were received in the FBI Laboratory on March 16th of this year, and they were submitted to the Laboratory by the Dallas office of the FBI.

Mr. Eisenberg.

When were they examined?

Mr. Cunningham.

They were examined on March 17, 1964.

Mr. Eisenberg.

Can you explain the great time difference between the receipt and examination of the first bullet and the receipt and examination of the last three bullets?

Mr. Cunningham.

At your request, you asked us to postpone the examination of these three bullets in order to facilitate other examinations you wished more expedited than the examinations of these bullets.

Mr. Eisenberg.

Now you are explaining the time between the receipt and the examination?

Mr. Cunningham.

Yes.

Mr. Eisenberg.

Now, can you explain why these three bullets--

Mr. Cunningham.

Oh, between. the first submission and the second?

Mr. Eisenberg.

Yes; between the submission of the first bullet, and the submission to you of the second three bullets.

Mr. Cunningham.

Well, it is my understanding the first bullet was turned over to the FBI office in Dallas by the Dallas Police Department. They reportedly said this was the only bullet that was recovered, or that they had. Later at the request of this Commission, we went back to the Dallas Police Department and found in their files that they actually had three other bullets.

Mr. Eisenberg.

Now, did you examine these four bullets to determine whether they had been fired in the revolver, Exhibit No. 143, to the exclusion of all other weapons?