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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. III - Page 413« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Robert A. Frazier)

Representative Boggs.
Is this a stationary target?
Mr. Frazier.
Yes, this is shooting from a rest at a stationary target.
Representative Boggs.
This is just a normal--
Mr. Frazier.
This is just the trajectory of the bullet.
Representative Boggs.
I understand.
Mr. Frazier.
As calculated
Mr. Mccloy.
Putting it another way, what would be the drop of the bullet at a hundred yards if you aim point-blank straight at that target?
Mr. Frazier.
Assuming no sighting or anything, the bullet would drop about 1.2 inches from the line of the bore at 100 yards.
Representative Boggs.
1.2 inches?
Mr. Frazier.
Yes, sir.
Representative Boggs.
But now the telescopic sight at a hundred yards would correct that?
Mr. Frazier.
Yes, sir. Actually, you would sight so that the muzzle is tipped up slightly with reference to the sight.
Mr. Eisenberg.
The error would be introduced if you shot at a target which is closer or further away than the sighting-in target; is that correct?
Mr. Frazier.
Yes, that's right.
Mr. Eisenberg.
Would you characterize these errors as material?
Mr. Frazier.
No, sir; I would not--unless you began shooting at distances well beyond your sighting-in point--then the amount of variation increases very rapidly.
Mr. Eisenberg.
What would be the usual minimum distance you use for sighting-in a weapon such as Exhibit. 139?
Mr. Frazier.
It would vary from place to place depending upon shooting conditions, and I would say it would seldom be sighted-in for less than 150 or 200 yards.
Mr. Eisenberg.
So that if the shots involved in the assassination were fired at 175 feet and 265 feet respectively, they would be shorter than the sighting-in distance and therefore not materially affected by the trajectory characteristics, is that correct?
Mr. Frazier.
That is correct, yes.
Mr. Eisenberg.
Now, based upon the characteristics of Exhibit 139, and the ammunition it employs, and based upon your experience with the weapon, would you consider it to have been a good choice for the commission of a crime such as the assassination?
Mr. Frazier.
Yes, sir; I would.
Mr. Eisenberg.
Can you explain that?
Mr. Frazier.
Yes. Any rifle, regardless of its caliber, would be a good choice if it would shoot accurately.
Mr. Eisenberg.
And did you find this shot accurately?
Mr. Frazier.
Yes, sir.
Representative Boggs.
Would you consider the shots difficult shots--talking about the shots from the sixth-floor window to the head of the President and to Governor Connally?
Mr. Frazier.
No, sir; I would not under the circumstances--a relatively slow-moving target, and very short distance, and a telescopic sight.
Representative Boggs.
You are not answering that as an expert.
Mr. Frazier.
From my own experience in shooting over the years, when you shoot at 175 feet or 260 feet, which is less than a hundred yards, with, a telescopic sight, you should not have any difficulty in hitting your target.
Representative Boggs.
Putting my question another way, you would not have to be an expert marksman to accomplish this objective?
Mr. Frazier.
I would say no, you certainly would not.
Representative Boggs.
And a. man is a relatively large target, is he not?
Mr. Frazier.
Yes, sir; I would say you would have to be very familiar with the weapon to fire it rapidly, and do this--hit this target at those ranges. But the marksmanship is accomplished by the telescopic sight. I mean it requires no training at all to shoot a weapon with a telescopic sight once you know that you must put the crosshairs on the target and that is all that is necessary.
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