Mrs. Paine.

We drove, except to the Oak Cliff Station for this driver training test.

Mr. Jenner.

That is the only occasion?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes; that is the only one I recall. Can you refresh my memory. I can't think of any other.

Mr. Jenner.

You are clear that you drove him from your home to the bus terminal in Irving?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

And either you left immediately Or waited to see him board the bus, but it is your definite recollection you did not drive him to the Dallas downtown area on that occasion?

Mrs. Paine.

Oh, I did once drive him to the Dallas downtown area, because I recall where he got out. Now why I was going--yes, I think I may know why I was going.

Mr. Jenner.

Fix the time first.

Mrs. Paine.

I do recall now driving him into downtown Dallas because I was already going and it was probably Monday, the 14th of October.

Mr. Jenner.

This is the day before his employment began with the Texas School Book Depository?

Mrs. Paine.

It would have been 2 days before, the day before he applied. I have several recollections but which day they attach to is not quite as clear.
I recall taking him to the bus. I recall picking him up at the bus. I recall going in and dropping him off at a corner of Ross Avenue and something else, which was near the employment office.

Mr. Jenner.

In downtown Dallas?

Mrs. Paine.

Near the employment office station. I was on my way to get a key fixed on my Russian typewriter which is what was taking me downtown. I hadn't been thinking--I at no time made a purposeful trip just to take him to downtown Dallas, but I was going and he went along and I am pretty sure that was a Monday and he got out at that corner and Marina was with me and we went on to get this typewriter fixed either to pick it up or to leave it. I am quite
certain it was the 12th, Saturday, that I picked him up at the station.

Mr. Jenner.

At the bus terminal?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes. And I am pretty certain that it was the 7th I took him to the bus station. I recall it being already noon, and I thought he might well have started looking for a job earlier that day.

Mr. Jenner.

When next did you hear from Mr. Oswald?

Mrs. Paine.

After the 7th. Probably on the 12th when he called again to ask if he could come out for the weekend.

Mr. Jenner.

The 12th is what day of the week?

Mrs. Paine.

The 12th is a Saturday.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you recall that he did call?

Mrs. Paine.

Pardon?

Mr. Jenner.

Did you recall that he did telephone and ask permission to come?

Mrs. Paine.

Oh, indeed he did.

Mr. Jenner.

Did he always do that?

Mrs. Paine.

He always did that with the exception of the 21st of November.

Mr. Jenner.

We will get to that in a very few moments.

Mr. Mccloy.

Before you get to that you said you went all the way into Dallas with this errand, that Marina was with you.

Mrs. Paine.

That is my recollection.

Mr. Mccloy.

What did you do with the children?

Mrs. Paine.

We always take them.

Mr. Mccloy.

Took them all, put them all in the station wagon?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes; big station wagon.

Mr. Jenner.

By the way, I would like to go back a little. When you picked him up at the bus station on the afternoon of the 4th of October, what did he have

Mrs. Paine.

On the afternoon of the 12th, around noon of the 12th.

Mr. Jenner.

Please, when he first returned to Irving after--

Mrs. Paine.

He hitchhiked out.