Mrs. Markham.

the blood was coming from here like this and like that, in an oval shape. It did not splutter on his face too much, his mouth. It was here, coming out here.

Representative Ford.

The blood was?

Mrs. Markham.

Yes, just gushes. I had my workshoes in my hand. I laid them up on the squad car. I had my purse, which I can't remember where I put it, but this, I had a head scarf around my head, I had my coat on.

Mr. Ball.

I would like to offer all of these into evidence at this time, up to 526, inclusive.

The Chairman.

They may be received.
(The items identified as Commission Exhibits Nos. 525 and 526 were received in evidence.)

The Chairman.

Mr. Dulles, will you preside in my absence, please. I must attend a session of the Court.

Mr. Dulles.

I will, sir.
(The Chairman left the hearing room at this point.)

Mr. Ball.

Mrs. Markham, the police car, did the police car go beyond the man who was walking along the sidewalk, or did it stop opposite him?

Mrs. Markham.

Almost even with him.

Mr. Ball.

And when the police car stopped, did the man stop?

Mrs. Markham.

Yes, sir; and walked over to the policeman.

Mr. Ball.

The police car was going in the same direction as the man?

Mrs. Markham.

Yes. sir.

Mr. Ball.

And caught up with him?

Mrs. Markham.

Yes. sir.

Mr. Ball.

Mrs. Markham, do you know a man named Mark Lane?

Mrs. Markham.

No; I do not.

Mr. Ball.

Did you ever hear of the name?

Mrs. Markham.

Did not.

Mr. Ball.

Did you ever talk to a New York lawyer who says he was from New York?

Mrs. Markham.

No, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Did you ever talk to a lawyer who was investigating the case in behalf of the deceased man, Lee Oswald?

Mrs. Markham.

No, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Did you ever talk to a man who said he was representing the mother of Lee Oswald?

Mrs. Markham.

No, sir.

Mr. Ball.

You don't remember ever talking to a man named Mark Lane?

Mrs. Markham.

No, sir.

Mr. Ball.

In an appearance before this Commission, a man named Mark Lane has testified this way. Let me read it to you. That was on Wednesday, March 4, 1964, Vol. II of a public hearing before this Commission, page 51. This is what he said:
"I spoke with the deponent"-he is talking about an affidavit that you made to the Dallas Police Department-"l spoke with the deponent, the eyewitness, Helen Louise Markham, and Mrs. Markham told me Miss or Mrs., I didn't ask her if she was married--told me she was 100 feet away from the police car, not the 50 feet which appears in the affidavit."
Do you recall ever stating that to Mr. Lane or anyone else?

Mrs. Markham.

No, sir; no, sir.

Mr. Ball.

He testified: "She gave me a more detailed description of the man who she said shot Officer Tippit. She said he was short, a little on the heavy side, and his hair was somewhat bushy." Did you say that to Mark Lane?

Mrs. Markham.

No, sir; I don't even know the man.

Mr. Ball.

Or anybody else?

Mrs. Markham.

No, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Did you ever tell anyone that the man who shot Tippit was short, a little on the heavy side, and his hair was somewhat bushy?

Mrs. Markham.

No, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Was the man, is it your memory now that the man who shot Tippit was short, a little on the heavy side?