Mr. Ball.

Is that where you were when you saw the shooting?

Mrs. Markham.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Did you move from that place from the time of the shooting until the time you saw the man on the corner?

Mrs. Markham.

No, sir.

Mr. Dulles.

I wonder, Mrs. Markham, if you would repeat for me, I would like to hear it, and Congressman Ford would like to hear it, the scene that you saw where the man now known to be Oswald went up and put his arms on the door of the police car, as I understand it.

Mrs. Markham.

Yes.

Mr. Dulles.

Would you tell that once again. I would like to hear it again.

Mrs. Markham.

He calmly walked to the car. He wasn't in no hurry.

Mr. Dulles.

May I ask, was he called, were there any words that you heard?

Mrs. Markham.

No, I did not. I seen the police car stop.

Mr. Dulles.

You didn't hear the policeman say, "Come here," or anything of that kind?

Mrs. Markham.

No.

Mr. Dulles.

He might have done it, but you didn't hear it?

Mrs. Markham.

That is right. And the man went over to the car, put his hands on the window--

Mr. Dulles.

The window was open?

Mrs. Markham.

Leaned over like this.

Mr. Dulles.

Let me see. Was that on the right-hand side of the car, or where the driver was?

Mrs. Markham.

It was on the opposite side of the car.

Mr. Dulles.

Opposite side of the car from the driver, yes.

Mrs. Markham.

Yes. The window was down, and I know it was down, I know, and he put his arms and leaned over, I don't know what they were talking about, I didn't hear it. Then he stepped back in a few minutes, stepped back two steps.

Mr. Dulles.

He stepped back two steps from the car?

Mrs. Markham.

Just stepped back twice. Mr. Tippit, of course, the policeman-I didn't know it was Mr. Tippit--

Mr. Dulles.

Yes.

Mrs. Markham.

He calmly opened the door. He calmly crawled out like he wasn't angry.

Mr. Dulles.

Did he have a weapon in his hands?

Mrs. Markham.

I didn't see one.

Mr. Dulles.

And what happened?

Mrs. Markham.

He was just calmly walking to the front of the car and when he got even with the wheel on the driver's side, front, you know, that man shot him.

Mr. Dulles.

Did you see him draw his revolver?

Mrs. Markham.

He shot him like this.

Mr. Dulles.

I see.

Mr. Ball.

Like this, you mean from the hip or from the waist?

Mrs. Markham.

Yes. In the wink of your eye, before you could ever--just like that. It didn't seem like it bothered him, disturbed him.

Mr. Dulles.

The policeman hadn't made, as far as you could see, any menacing gestures toward him? He wasn't trying to grab him or anything of that kind?

Mrs. Markham.

No. He was very calm, very. I would say like in slow motion, you know, like he was getting out to talk with the man, or go in the house for disturbance or something, I don't know.

Mr. Ball.

He shot across the hood of the car?

Mrs. Markham.

Across the hood.

Mr. Ball.

The policeman was in the street, walking in the street around to the front of the car?

Mrs. Markham.

Yes.

Mr. Dulles.

The policeman then got out on the opposite side of where Oswald was?

Mrs. Markham.

Yes, I guess he was coming around.