Mrs. Markham.

On account the traffic was coming.

Mr. Ball.

And you stopped there on the corner?

Mrs. Markham.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

That would be the northwest corner, wouldn't it?

Mrs. Markham.

Northwest corner.

Mr. Ball.

Is that right?

Mrs. Markham.

I believe it is. I believe it is the northwest corner.

Mr. Ball.

Did you see any man walking at that time?

Mrs. Markham.

Yes; I seen this man on the opposite side, across the street from me. He was almost across Patton Street.

Mr. Ball.

Almost across Patton?

Mrs. Markham.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Walking in what direction?

Mrs. Markham.

I guess this would be south.

Mr. Ball.

Along 10th, east? Was it along 10th?

Mrs. Markham.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Walking away from you, wasn't he?

Mrs. Markham.

He was walking up 10th, away from me.

Mr. Ball.

To your left?

Mrs. Markham.

Well, he was on the opposite side of the street to me like that.

Mr. Ball.

Had he reached the curb yet?

Mrs. Markham.

Almost ready to get up on the curb.

Mr. Ball.

What did you notice then?

Mrs. Markham.

Well, I noticed a police car coming.

Mr. Ball.

Where was the police car when you first saw it?

Mrs. Markham.

He was driving real slow, almost up to this man, well, say this man, and he kept, this man kept walking, you know, and the police car going real slow now, real slow, and they just kept coming into the curb, and finally they got way up there a little ways up, well, it stopped.

Mr. Ball.

The police car stopped?

Mrs. Markham.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

What about the man? Was he still walking?

Mrs. Markham.

The man stopped.

Mr. Ball.

Then what did you see the man do?

Mrs. Markham.

I saw the man come over to the car very slow, leaned and put his arms just like this, he leaned over in this window and looked in this window.

Mr. Ball.

He put his arms on the window ledge?

Mrs. Markham.

The window was down.

Mr. Ball.

It was?

Mrs. Markham.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Put his arms on the window ledge?

Mrs. Markham.

On the ledge of the window.

Mr. Ball.

And the policeman was sitting where?

Mrs. Markham.

On the driver's side.

Mr. Ball.

He was sitting behind the wheel?

Mrs. Markham.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Was he alone in the car?

Mrs. Markham.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

Then what happened?

Mrs. Markham.

Well, I didn't think nothing about it; you know, the police are nice and friendly, and I thought friendly conversation. Well, I looked, and there were cars coming, so I had to wait. Well, in a few minutes this man made--

Mr. Ball.

What did you see the policeman do?

Mrs. Markham.

See the policeman? Well, this man, like I told you, put his arms up, leaned over, he just a minute, and he drew back and he stepped back about two steps. Mr. Tippit--

Mr. Ball.

The policeman?

Mrs. Markham.

The policeman calmly opened the car door, very slowly, wasn't angry or nothing, he calmly crawled out of this car, and I still just thought a friendly conversation, maybe disturbance in the house, I did not know; well, just as the policeman got--