Mr. Truly.

the miscellaneous order department, which is actually a one-man operation. I filled orders for books other than state-adopted textbooks.

Mr. Belin.

And then what?

Mr. Truly.

I worked on through that time until the present time. During the war I worked in the North American plant at Arlington.

Mr. Belin.

That is the North American Aviation?

Mr. Truly.

North American Aviation plant at Arlington, for around 14 months, at night. But I continued to hold my job.
Well, I would go down to work 2, 3, 4 hours a day. Shortly after that, I took charge of all the shipping.
Well, I have been superintendent of the operation since some time in the late 1944.

Mr. Belin.

You have been superintendent of the Texas School Book Depository. And do you have any other positions with the company at this time?

Mr. Truly.

I am a director--I am a member of the board of directors of the Texas School Book Depository.

Mr. Belin.

Is that a state organization or a private company?

Mr. Truly.

It is a private corporation.

Mr. Belin.

Mr. Truly, when did you first hear of the name of Lee Harvey Oswald?

Mr. Truly.

I heard the name on or about October 15th.

Mr. Belin.

Of what year?

Mr. Truly.

Of 1963.

Mr. Belin.

And from whom did you hear the name? Could you just relate to the Commission the circumstances, if you would, please?

Mr. Truly.

I received a phone call from a lady in Irving who said her name was Mrs. Paine.

Mr. Belin.

All right.
What did Mrs. Paine say, and what did you say?

Mr. Truly.

She said, "Mr. Truly,"---words to this effect---you understand---" Mr. Truly, you don't know who I am but I have a neighbor whose brother works for you. I don't know what his name is. But he tells his sister that you are very busy. And I am just wondering if you can use another man," or words to that effect.
And I told Mrs.---she said, "I have a fine young man living here with his wife and baby, and his wife is expecting a baby--another baby, in a few days, and he needs work desperately."
Now, this is not absolutely--this is as near as I can remember the conversation over the telephone.
And I told Mrs. Paine that--to send him down, and I would talk to him--that I didn't have anything in mind for him of a permanent nature, but if he was suited, we could possibly use him for a brief time.

Mr. Belin.

Was there anything else from that conversation that you remember at all, or not?

Mr. Truly.

No. I believe that was the first and the last time that I talked to Mrs. Paine.
In fact, I could not remember her name afterwards until I saw her name in print, and then it popped into my mind that this was the lady who called me.

Mr. Belin.

All right.

Anything else on--what was this--October 15th--about Lee Harvey Oswald?
Mr. TRULY, Yes, sir; I am sure it was on October 15th.

Mr. Belin.

Anything else you can remember about Lee Harvey Oswald on that day?

Mr. Truly.

She told me she would tell him to come down and see me.
So he came in, introduced himself to me, and I took him in my office and interviewed him. He seemed to be quiet and well mannered.
I gave him an application to fill out, which he did.

Mr. Belin.

Did he fill it out in front of you, or not?

Mr. Truly.

Yes; he did. And he told me I asked him about experience that he had had, or where he had worked, and he said he had just served his term in the Marine Corps and had received an honorable discharge, and he listed some things of an office nature that he had learned to do in the Marines.