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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. III - Page 144« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Howard Leslie Brennan)

Mr. Brennan.
I glanced up. And this man that I saw previous was aiming for his last shot.
Mr. Belin.
This man you saw previous? Which man are you talking about now?
Mr. Brennan.
The man in the sixth story window.
Mr. Belin.
Would you describe just exactly what you saw when you saw him this last time?
Mr. Brennan.
Well, as it appeared to me he was standing up and resting against the left window sill, with gun shouldered to his right shoulder, holding the gun with his left hand and taking positive aim and fired his last shot. As I calculate a couple of seconds. He drew the gun back from the window as though he was drawing it back to his side and maybe paused for another second as though to assure hisself that he hit his mark, and then he disappeared.
And, at the same moment, I was diving off of that firewall and to the right for bullet protection of this stone wall that is a little higher on the Houston side.
Mr. Belin.
Well, let me ask you. What kind of a gun did you see in that window?
Mr. Brennan.
I am not an expert on guns. It was, as I could observe, some type of a high-powered rifle.
Mr. Belin.
Could you tell whether or not it had any kind of a scope on it?
Mr. Brennan.
I did not observe a scope.
Mr. Belin.
Could you tell whether or not it had one? Do you know whether it did or not, or could you observe that it definitely did or definitely did not, or don't you know?
Mr. Brennan.
I do not know if it had a scope or not.
Mr. Belin.
I believe you said you thought the man was standing. What do you believe was the position of the people on the fifth floor that you saw--standing or sitting?
Mr. Brennan.
I thought they were standing with their elbows on the window sill leaning out.
Mr. Belin.
At the time you saw this man on the sixth floor, how much of the man could you see?
Mr. Brennan.
Well, I could see at one time he came to the window and he sat sideways on the window sill. That was previous to President Kennedy getting there. And I could see practically his whole body, from his hips up. But at the time that he was firing the gun, a possibility from his belt up.
Mr. Belin.
How much of the gun do you believe that you saw?
Mr. Brennan.
I calculate 70 to 85 percent of the gun.
Mr. Belin.
Do you know what direction the gun was pointing.
Mr. Brennan.
Yes.
Mr. Belin.
And what direction was the gun pointing when you saw it?
Mr. Brennan.
At somewhat 30 degrees downward and west by south.
Mr. Belin.
Do you know down what street it was pointing?
Mr. Brennan.
Yes. Down Elm Street toward the railroad underpasses.
Mr. Belin.
Now, up to the time of the shots, did you observe anything else that you have not told us about here that you can think of right now?
Mr. Brennan.
Well, not of any importance. I don't remember anything else except--
Mr. Belin.
Let me ask you this. How many shots did you hear?
Mr. Brennan.
Positively two. I do not recall a second shot--
Mr. Belin.
By a second shot, you mean a middle shot between the time you heard the first noise and the last noise?
Mr. Brennan.
Yes; that is right. I don't know what made me think that there was firecrackers throwed out of the Book Store unless I did hear the second shot, because I positively thought the first shot was a backfire, and subconsciously must have heard a second shot, but I do not recall it. I could not swear to it.
Mr. Belin.
Could you describe the man you saw in the window on the sixth floor?
Mr. Brennan.
To my best description, a man in his early thirties, fair complexion, slender but neat, neat slender, possibly 5-foot 10.
Mr. Belin.
About what weight?
Mr. Brennan.
Oh, at--I calculated, I think, from 160 to 170 pounds.
Mr. Belin.
A white man?
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