Mrs. Paine.

Yes; that is right.
If I may say here, I am offended by the portion of the Communist doctrine that thinks violence is necessary to achieve its aims. I am likewise offended by the doctrine that any means to what is considered a good end is legitimate.
I, on the contrary, feel that there is no justification at any time for deception, and the Communists, as I have observed their activity, have no reluctance to deceive, and this offends me seriously.

Mr. Jenner.

In that thinking, violence also impels you against the Communist faith?

Mrs. Paine.

It certainly does.

Mr. Jenner.

Or political doctrine?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes; their espousal of violence repels me.

Mr. Jenner.

You have an interest in the Russian language?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes; I do.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, the members of the Commission, all of them are interested in how you came to have your interest in the Russian language, and they would like to have you indicate when it first arose and under what circumstances and what impelled you to have an interest in the Russian language; start from the very beginning of your life in that connection--that episode in your life?

Mrs. Paine.

All right. To be really the very beginning I will start and say I have been interested in other languages before being interested in Russian. I studied French in high school, German in college, and got a tutor to study Yiddish when I was working with a group that spoke that language.

Mr. Jenner.

That is the Golden Age group of the Young--

Mrs. Paine.

Men and Young Women--

Mr. Jenner.

Hebrew Association in Philadelphia?

Mrs. Paine.

That is correct.

Mr. Jenner.

At that time you were employed by?

Mrs. Paine.

That organization.

Mr. Jenner.

By that organization. And were you doing work in connection with this plan of Antioch College?

Mrs. Paine.

No; that was after I had completed my work at Antioch.

Mr. Jenner.

I see.

Mrs. Paine.

Well, I do believe I did get some credit for that year at Antioch

although I had completed my academic work, I was still getting some credit for my job credit, that is.

Mr. Jenner.

All right, proceed.

Mrs. Paine.

And then I was working with a group of young Quakers, had been indeed for sometime.

Mr. Jenner.

Please fix a little more definite time, please?

Mrs. Paine.

I began my interest in young Quakers in 1947.

Mr. Jenner.

In 1947?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

As quite a young girl?

Mrs. Paine.

When my interest also began in the Quaker church.

Mr. Jenner.

You were then what, you were 19 years old?

Mrs. Paine.

I was going on 15, as a matter of fact.

Mr. Jenner.

Going on 15?

Mrs. Paine.

That is right.

Mr. Jenner.

You were going to high school?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Where were you living then?

Mrs. Paine.

I was living in Columbus, Ohio.

Mr. Jenner.

And you became interested in the Quaker faith then or at least

in the Quaker activity?

Mrs. Paine.

Both.

Mr. Jenner.

And were you a member of the Friends Society, young people's society in Columbus at that time?

Mrs. Paine.

I attended the meeting which is the Quaker church in Columbus. They didn't have enough young people to have a society in that particular meeting. But then in college I became active in the national young Friends group.